Originally Posted by mikensf74
(Post 10568262)
Niele... run (do not walk) to the nearest phone, and ask United to give you a credit for the difference in what you paid, and the current price. Last I heard, UA still gives you flight credit. (are you running to the phone yet..?) :D
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Originally Posted by brosher
(Post 10570499)
It's not just leasure travelers that are cutting back. Many companies have implemented travel restrictions for Q4. This is even including limiting travel of Sales! Airlines and hotels are going to be feeling a lot more pain for the rest of the year.
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Originally Posted by niele
(Post 10572024)
Just read your message mikensf74 and yes I'm a runnin'...... many, many thanks for the info :D
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Originally Posted by RS250Racer
(Post 10567964)
The economy is smoked...we ain't seen nothing yet.
I have been talking to a lot of people...most are saying about 3 weeks ago business came to a standstill! Given that my ORD-MUC flight on 11/7 is C0 (so much for my SWU u/g, but at least SFO-ORD is F), I'd say, I hope there are some cancellations. (I/B, MUC-IAD-SFO is C9 all the way at this point.) |
Originally Posted by UnitedSkies
(Post 10568487)
One empty flight does not a disaster make...
I am pretty sure the economy is putting a damper on a lot of leisure and business travel (though in my case the above flight will be my own business travel this year), but I am not sure we can draw any conclusions from individual flights, one way or another. |
UAUA tripled in the last 2 weeks or so, seems the financial community thinks the situation is not that bad in spite of the huge Q3 loss and the slowdown. Oil prices should help with holiday travel and overall loads for UA seem reasonable, although personally I would expect less people on planes for the next few months.
UX routes in/out of ORF are always loaded (close to 100%) but the military plays a large role here and AA recently dropped their ORF-ORD route so UX is the only ORD route, (SW has ORF-MDW). |
I've got an upcoming project that might be taking place in Sante Fe. I live in Denver. I decided if the project happens, I'm driving. Not because the flight cost or anything, but I've been on so many airplanes the last few months that a 5 hour road trip, when counting the time it takes to check-in, drop bags, clear security, then wait for the flight; will take just about as long. I would imagine that might be why the short haul flights have less people on them. Not to mention gas at $2.49 now. Since I'll get $0.485/mile, I could actually make some money on that, and it would be helluva lot more convinient.
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Agreed. My company has said no "leasure" travel. So no more training, no more face-to-face meetings. The only reason we have for buying a ticket is if we're going on billable engagements, and even then they are encouraging that if we can do a week from our home office, rather than travel to the client site, then to do it. I'm actually OK with that right now as in the last 3 months I have only been home a total of 10 days, and yes, that does count weekends.
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Originally Posted by Benny8444
(Post 10568545)
I agree, but when there is a pattern of empty flights on given days and times or there is a flight that is always empty, UA needs to do something. Weather it is use a smaller plane or reduce the number of flights on given routes. I would reduce the number of the intra California flights on the weekends when the business travelers are less likely to fly.
I'm still thinking the only airline that comes out of this well will be American. All they have to do is hang on until one, hopefully two legacy carriers go into bankruptcy and try to get debtor financing... which they won't, forcing them to liquidate. Once that happens, AA can finally file themselves and get rid of some of their debt load (basically offloading their pensions to the government, like everybody else has done through bankruptcy), and emerge as the dominant player. |
Originally Posted by niele
(Post 10568237)
Well, I'm not a happy camper. Purchased tickets for my kids in July sfo-yvr-sfo and the cost was about $430/each. I go online today and it's down to about $280/each! :( At least they made some good money off of me, not to mention the interest they're accruing (trip is not until feb.09) Oh, well .... ;)
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Originally Posted by Javan69
(Post 10573537)
Why on Earth would you purchase tix for Feb. in July??? :confused:
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Originally Posted by RS250Racer
(Post 10567964)
The economy is smoked...we ain't seen nothing yet.
I have been talking to a lot of people...most are saying about 3 weeks ago business came to a standstill! we're not anywhere near the bottom yet... this quarter is going to be even worse than Q3... and the airlines will really start feeling it as all those other consulting companies will stop flying to see customers in similar situations... |
Originally Posted by airshane
(Post 10572647)
I've got an upcoming project that might be taking place in Sante Fe. I live in Denver. I decided if the project happens, I'm driving. Not because the flight cost or anything, but I've been on so many airplanes the last few months that a 5 hour road trip, when counting the time it takes to check-in, drop bags, clear security, then wait for the flight; will take just about as long. I would imagine that might be why the short haul flights have less people on them. Not to mention gas at $2.49 now. Since I'll get $0.485/mile, I could actually make some money on that, and it would be helluva lot more convinient.
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