"Glenn Must Go" bracelet!
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PS. Once source of bracelets is identified, please post it here. I want one.
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ME TOO! If any FA's read this, please get us some! I'd even pay. I think it is important that we show unity in a time like this. FA's, pilots, and passengers are all suffering thanks to the evil man at the top.
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Apparently, this has become an issue of some contention between the AFA and management: http://www.unitedafa.org/mec/preside...ils.asp?ID=241
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I also agree with DogHead. Glenn is not United. United is iflyua2, Liz, DullesJason, etc.
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silly rabbit, trix are for kids-it's in memory of ted . rar!
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Apparently, this has become an issue of some contention between the AFA and management: http://www.unitedafa.org/mec/preside...ils.asp?ID=241
The single funniest part about that letter was this though:
Time is far better spent on a constructive approach to labor relations so that we can work together in bringing about a fundamental change at United Airlines.
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Gee now there's a shocker who could have possibly foreseen that wearing a bracelet that basically says: I want my boss fired could cause some management folks to get upset. In the real world wearing such a bracelet would typically achieve your goal of not working for that person anymore, just not in the way you had in mind.
I've got no love for Tilton and his gang of chuckleheads, but the bracelet thing is just childish and stupid. The website's pretty disgraceful too.
If I wore something like that to work, I would be forced to remove it or be fired. And rightfully so.
What's the next order of business for these guys? Holding their breath until they turn blue?
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Silly, immature, whatever, I want one too! I did buy some small shares of UAL stock so my voice could be heard as a stockholder....didn't get me very far. Maybe the orange band is a emotional pacifier but it does voice my disgust with GT & gang.
It has become painfully obvious to all that Glen is not equal to the task of saving United, so he really should be considering other career options. Maybe employees and customers with their silly bracelets will finally incite the UAL Board to take action. I have flow United all my life (which is a bunch of years) and to alter the sad downhill trajectory UAL is on requires a very strong leader & management team that actually want to keep this airline aloft!
It has become painfully obvious to all that Glen is not equal to the task of saving United, so he really should be considering other career options. Maybe employees and customers with their silly bracelets will finally incite the UAL Board to take action. I have flow United all my life (which is a bunch of years) and to alter the sad downhill trajectory UAL is on requires a very strong leader & management team that actually want to keep this airline aloft!
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Two points are well taken here.
1) Any UA employee who wears this bracelet during their work hours or while in uniform and representing the company can rightfully be told to remove it or face disciplinary action.
2) We all want one!
So, I have a solution for the AFA. Rather than give them to your members, give them to passengers!! The FAs will not face any disciplinary action, and I think it will make a MUCH more impressive point if customers are wearing bands that say Tilton must go.
So AFA: Hand over the bracelets!!!
1) Any UA employee who wears this bracelet during their work hours or while in uniform and representing the company can rightfully be told to remove it or face disciplinary action.
2) We all want one!
So, I have a solution for the AFA. Rather than give them to your members, give them to passengers!! The FAs will not face any disciplinary action, and I think it will make a MUCH more impressive point if customers are wearing bands that say Tilton must go.
So AFA: Hand over the bracelets!!!
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I agree in general that employees basically saying "my CEO" sucks in front of customers should be fired. I think we could also agree that CEO's that tell a customer to take their business elsewhere when expressing a genuine concern (as GT did to one of our own this year) should be fired. I think we'd also agree that anyone that tells their employees that anyone that complains or isn't happy is part of a "vocal minority" deserves to be fired.
The fact is Tilton has shown complete disregard for his employees and customers to the point that I don't have an ounce of respect for him. I actually like quite a few of the other upper management people at UA, but GT is just out of this world, IMO. As much as I was first against the idea of the "vocal minority" bracelet, I'm now proudly wearing it because as a customer and as someone that has many friends working at UA, I'm truly disgusted by Tilton. Not that it'll change anything, but it's a small way of expressing myself.
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You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth.
I've got no love for Titlon and his gang of chuckleheads, but the bracelet thing is just childish and stupid. The website's pretty disgraceful too.
If I wore something like that to work, I would be forced to remove it or be fired. And rightfully so.
What's the next order of business for these guys? Holding their breath until they turn blue?
I've got no love for Titlon and his gang of chuckleheads, but the bracelet thing is just childish and stupid. The website's pretty disgraceful too.
If I wore something like that to work, I would be forced to remove it or be fired. And rightfully so.
What's the next order of business for these guys? Holding their breath until they turn blue?
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Greg, in general I agree with you and as I've stated many times in the past, I'm not a pro-union guy. That being said, Tilton is just so ridiculous that he deserves no respect.
I agree in general that employees basically saying "my CEO" sucks in front of customers should be fired. I think we could also agree that CEO's that tell a customer to take their business elsewhere when expressing a genuine concern (as GT did to one of our own this year) should be fired. I think we'd also agree that anyone that tells their employees that anyone that complains or isn't happy is part of a "vocal minority" deserves to be fired.
The fact is Tilton has shown complete disregard for his employees and customers to the point that I don't have an ounce of respect for him. I actually like quite a few of the other upper management people at UA, but GT is just out of this world, IMO. As much as I was first against the idea of the "vocal minority" bracelet, I'm now proudly wearing it because as a customer and as someone that has many friends working at UA, I'm truly disgusted by Tilton. Not that it'll change anything, but it's a small way of expressing myself.
I agree in general that employees basically saying "my CEO" sucks in front of customers should be fired. I think we could also agree that CEO's that tell a customer to take their business elsewhere when expressing a genuine concern (as GT did to one of our own this year) should be fired. I think we'd also agree that anyone that tells their employees that anyone that complains or isn't happy is part of a "vocal minority" deserves to be fired.
The fact is Tilton has shown complete disregard for his employees and customers to the point that I don't have an ounce of respect for him. I actually like quite a few of the other upper management people at UA, but GT is just out of this world, IMO. As much as I was first against the idea of the "vocal minority" bracelet, I'm now proudly wearing it because as a customer and as someone that has many friends working at UA, I'm truly disgusted by Tilton. Not that it'll change anything, but it's a small way of expressing myself.
When I get on a plane and I see these bracelets, it sets a negative tone right away. It says to me, from the customer perspective, "I'm an angry employee, and I hate my boss." That is NOT something that the customer should have to deal with, EVER. No matter how justified it may be (and I believe it IS justified in this case).
Why not make some "I love my customers" bracelets?
Or how about "thanks for sticking with United" stickers?
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Has anyone purchased any stock to get a voting say, then write in suggesting the board oust him (then sell stock for loss)?
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Two points are well taken here.
1) Any UA employee who wears this bracelet during their work hours or while in uniform and representing the company can rightfully be told to remove it or face disciplinary action.
2) We all want one!
So, I have a solution for the AFA. Rather than give them to your members, give them to passengers!! The FAs will not face any disciplinary action, and I think it will make a MUCH more impressive point if customers are wearing bands that say Tilton must go.
So AFA: Hand over the bracelets!!!
1) Any UA employee who wears this bracelet during their work hours or while in uniform and representing the company can rightfully be told to remove it or face disciplinary action.
2) We all want one!
So, I have a solution for the AFA. Rather than give them to your members, give them to passengers!! The FAs will not face any disciplinary action, and I think it will make a MUCH more impressive point if customers are wearing bands that say Tilton must go.
So AFA: Hand over the bracelets!!!
Now the question for FT is does UA need to let YOU onboard if you are wearing something that might potentially be "disruptive to the safe operation of the aircraft" in the eyes of UA Management