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AdamUK Jul 11, 2008 3:48 am

Code-sharing Madness?
 
I know that Airline Revenue Systems are more complicated to understand than the meaning of life, but can anyone explain the following:

LHR-LAX
2nd March 09, returning 12 March 09.

BMI Price/BMI Code Share on UA Metal: £280.70. WLXBD2.
UA Price/UA Flight #'s/Same UA Metal: £502.70. WLXELF25.

Obviously different fare basis even though both are W fares - is this just BMI trying to sell early fares? Surely they revenue share with UA on this?

Furthermore, an infant fare on BMI is only an extra £32.70, whereas according to the UA website you have to buy a child seat if flying International as an infant?

Obviously my money is going to be going to BMI, as there seems no benefit whatsoever paying UA direct for this, just looking for some clarification if there is some for these results? :confused:

cepheid Jul 11, 2008 4:41 am


Originally Posted by AdamUK (Post 10016934)
according to the UA website you have to buy a child seat if flying International as an infant?

The website is confusing, but no. The child has to have "a ticket," but that doesn't mean they have to have a seat. It just means that you have to pay for the lap infant for int'l travel, whereas a lap infant travels for free on domestic flights. I believe the cost is 10% of the ticketed cabin's full fare, but I'm not positive about this, having never done it.

As for the discrepancies between prices for the same flight... that's just how codeshares are sometimes, and I have no idea why. I believe the non-operating carrier basically purchases some number of seats in bulk from the operating carrier, and they can then sell them for whatever they like. Of course, I'm just guessing here.

TerryK Jul 11, 2008 6:25 am


Originally Posted by AdamUK (Post 10016934)
......there seems no benefit whatsoever paying UA direct for this...

Each selling carrier sets its only pricing and yield management. @:-)

You can only upgrade in advance if you book direct with UA flight number. @:-)

Boghopper Jul 11, 2008 6:44 am


Originally Posted by cepheid (Post 10017043)
The website is confusing, but no. The child has to have "a ticket," but that doesn't mean they have to have a seat. It just means that you have to pay for the lap infant for int'l travel, whereas a lap infant travels for free on domestic flights. I believe the cost is 10% of the ticketed cabin's full fare, but I'm not positive about this, having never done it.

As for the discrepancies between prices for the same flight... that's just how codeshares are sometimes, and I have no idea why. I believe the non-operating carrier basically purchases some number of seats in bulk from the operating carrier, and they can then sell them for whatever they like. Of course, I'm just guessing here.

10% is correct, for children under 2. Over 2 you have to buy a seat, but still get a slight discount.

rkaradi Jul 11, 2008 10:07 am

I've found the sme scenario for travel in Sept. UA is $300 more then the BMI codeshare ironically, the fareclass was a W on the BMI flight and an S on the UA. It's a gamble, but I'll buy the BMI one and hope to clear the upgrade at the gate. But conversely, there are many dates where BMI is $300 higher then the UA metal. Go figure, what a kooky business.

noah Jul 11, 2008 10:07 am


Originally Posted by Boghopper (Post 10017337)
10% is correct, for children under 2. Over 2 you have to buy a seat, but still get a slight discount.

How about if one is traveling in business on an award seat -- is it 10% of the business class fare or economy fare?

TerryK Jul 11, 2008 10:21 am


Originally Posted by noah (Post 10018238)
How about if one is traveling in business on an award seat -- is it 10% of the business class fare or economy fare?

It is 10% of the cabin travelled. Yes, it could be over $1000 for first class. :( You are better off redeeming an additional seat for the little one sometimes. :p

boifromtroy Jul 11, 2008 11:04 am


Originally Posted by TerryK (Post 10018316)
It is 10% of the cabin travelled. Yes, it could be over $1000 for first class. :( You are better off redeeming an additional seat for the little one sometimes. :p

Or, on behalf of your fellow travelers, sitting in a lower class of service with your crying baby. ;)

PVDProf Jul 11, 2008 11:23 am


Originally Posted by TerryK (Post 10018316)
It is 10% of the cabin travelled. Yes, it could be over $1000 for first class. :( You are better off redeeming an additional seat for the little one sometimes. :p

I think it's 10% of ticketed class (I haven't done it, but did think about it). If you buy Y and upgrade to C, it's 10% of Y. If you buy C with cash or miles, it's 10% of C. In either case, I believe it's 10% of full fare, not the fare you paid.


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