Wouldn't this be a better flight system?
Jun 28, 2008, 5:04 pm
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That's just the default / placeholder schedule so far into the future. Some widebodies will definitely show up closer to the actual flight dates.
Jun 28, 2008, 6:21 pm
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Because the productivity benefit of the Mac is both measurable and expected. The productivity benefit of E+ is, while potentially measurable, something that is less accepted because it's a comfort-derived benefit. Just like companies don't want employees taking a 20-minute powernap in the office, even though rested employees operate more efficiently than tired ones... when the benefit appears to be about comfort, it's "not business-like." Silly, but that's the way most companies work. The smarter ones (like Google) keep their employees comfortable because it pays off... most don't.
Jun 28, 2008, 7:04 pm
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Jun 28, 2008, 7:14 pm
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I'm all for less frequency but with a twist --- How about cutting frequency and then trading frequencies with American, alternating weekly time slots - they probably have just as many flights a day ORD-LAX.
i.e., United would fly hourly ten times a day - 1st week in the month
American would fly on the 1/2 hour ten times a day - 1st week in month
and then alternate for the 2nd week - UA on the 1/2 hour and AA on the hour and back to the hourly - UA on the 3rd week, 1/2 hour AA on the 3rd week etc.
Its better than each having 16 flights a day ORD-LAX (and other similar markets).
i.e., United would fly hourly ten times a day - 1st week in the month
American would fly on the 1/2 hour ten times a day - 1st week in month
and then alternate for the 2nd week - UA on the 1/2 hour and AA on the hour and back to the hourly - UA on the 3rd week, 1/2 hour AA on the 3rd week etc.
Its better than each having 16 flights a day ORD-LAX (and other similar markets).
Jun 28, 2008, 7:23 pm
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But that also means that at some points in the day that you could server with an A319 you'll not be able to have any flight at all. You could end up with 6 or 7 hr gaps during the day with no flight at all.
Jun 28, 2008, 8:07 pm
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I'm all for less frequency but with a twist --- How about cutting frequency and then trading frequencies with American, alternating weekly time slots - they probably have just as many flights a day ORD-LAX.
i.e., United would fly hourly ten times a day - 1st week in the month
American would fly on the 1/2 hour ten times a day - 1st week in month
and then alternate for the 2nd week - UA on the 1/2 hour and AA on the hour and back to the hourly - UA on the 3rd week, 1/2 hour AA on the 3rd week etc.
Its better than each having 16 flights a day ORD-LAX (and other similar markets).
i.e., United would fly hourly ten times a day - 1st week in the month
American would fly on the 1/2 hour ten times a day - 1st week in month
and then alternate for the 2nd week - UA on the 1/2 hour and AA on the hour and back to the hourly - UA on the 3rd week, 1/2 hour AA on the 3rd week etc.
Its better than each having 16 flights a day ORD-LAX (and other similar markets).
The only other city pairs in the world off the top of my head that have this level of frequency is SYD-MEL and HKG-TPE, and none of these are as badly delay-prone as ORD and NYC.
Jun 28, 2008, 10:53 pm
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I think you're being rather dramatic. Changing a route frequency from 11-12x to 6-7x doesn't mean that the flights will be '6-7 hours apart'.
Jun 28, 2008, 11:29 pm
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but as others have said, frequency is a selling point.
When I lived in Phoenix, Southwest had a ton of billboards announcing "66 Flights Daily from Phoenix to Albuquerque!!" or something like that. I've noticed similar Southwest ads in the Denver airport recently. Frequency sells, or they wouldn't tout it.
I understand that UA's business model is very different from WN's, but frequent flights are attractive to both LCC customers and legacy customers. What am I missing in this long thread?
When I lived in Phoenix, Southwest had a ton of billboards announcing "66 Flights Daily from Phoenix to Albuquerque!!" or something like that. I've noticed similar Southwest ads in the Denver airport recently. Frequency sells, or they wouldn't tout it.
I understand that UA's business model is very different from WN's, but frequent flights are attractive to both LCC customers and legacy customers. What am I missing in this long thread?
Jun 28, 2008, 11:38 pm
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but as others have said, frequency is a selling point.
When I lived in Phoenix, Southwest had a ton of billboards announcing "66 Flights Daily from Phoenix to Albuquerque!!" or something like that. I've noticed similar Southwest ads in the Denver airport recently. Frequency sells, or they wouldn't tout it.
I understand that UA's business model is very different from WN's, but frequent flights are attractive to both LCC customers and legacy customers. What am I missing in this long thread?
When I lived in Phoenix, Southwest had a ton of billboards announcing "66 Flights Daily from Phoenix to Albuquerque!!" or something like that. I've noticed similar Southwest ads in the Denver airport recently. Frequency sells, or they wouldn't tout it.
I understand that UA's business model is very different from WN's, but frequent flights are attractive to both LCC customers and legacy customers. What am I missing in this long thread?
Jun 29, 2008, 1:41 am
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I totally agree with you char777. I am also very surprised that frequency trumps comfort and that most here cannot see that it's the frequency of flights that's causing the delays and cancellations that are the cause of most complaints here. Fewer and larger birds in the sky would be a huge improvement.
Jun 29, 2008, 2:01 am
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I totally agree with you char777. I am also very surprised that frequency trumps comfort and that most here cannot see that it's the frequency of flights that's causing the delays and cancellations that are the cause of most complaints here. Fewer and larger birds in the sky would be a huge improvement.
You think it's a conspiracy by the networks to put bad shows on TV. But the shows are bad because that's what people want. It's not like Windows users don't have any power. I think they are happy with Windows, and that's an incredibly depressing thought.
Jun 29, 2008, 2:13 am
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Jun 29, 2008, 2:15 am
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