Dress code in F for UA Employees?
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My previous employer (when I was flying out of DEN) had a dress code for employees flying in F on business trips... I think that has gone by the wayside, since the mid-90's.
I generally wear standard business attire when I fly in F (Maui standard, anyway). I never got into the "tracksuit" thing.
I generally wear standard business attire when I fly in F (Maui standard, anyway). I never got into the "tracksuit" thing.
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I do allow for aloha crisp out bound...
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FT Search is really acting up, but here's a post from member kluau88 from 2006:
NRSA Dress Code...
All travelers are expected to dress in accordance with the standards of good taste including being 'neat,' 'clean,' and 'well groomed.' The following attire is unacceptable in any class of service.
- t-shirts
- workout attire
- sweat clothing
- bare midriff
- micro/mini skirts
- sheer/see through clothing
- tank tops
- beach clothing
- beach footwear
- cut-off clothing
- clothing with offensive terminology/graphics
- bare feet
- bathing suits
- halter or bra tops
- sleeveless muscle t-shirts
- leggings
- sweatshirts
- flip-flops
- clothing with holes/ragged edges
- provacative/revealing clothing
In addition to the items listed above, the following is unacceptable attire in First Class and Business Class:
- jeans or denim clothes of any color
- athletic or tennis shoes
- hiking/military style boots
- shorts
- baseball caps
- skin-tight or form fitting pants without mid-thigh length top
Customer service judgement will prevail in matters pertaining to dress code.
The above was from back in 2004, but pretty sure the same rules still apply today. I'm guessing those that don't follow the dress code are those who aren't the UA employees, but those traveling on the benefits of a UA employee and likely are unaccompanied.
All travelers are expected to dress in accordance with the standards of good taste including being 'neat,' 'clean,' and 'well groomed.' The following attire is unacceptable in any class of service.
- t-shirts
- workout attire
- sweat clothing
- bare midriff
- micro/mini skirts
- sheer/see through clothing
- tank tops
- beach clothing
- beach footwear
- cut-off clothing
- clothing with offensive terminology/graphics
- bare feet
- bathing suits
- halter or bra tops
- sleeveless muscle t-shirts
- leggings
- sweatshirts
- flip-flops
- clothing with holes/ragged edges
- provacative/revealing clothing
In addition to the items listed above, the following is unacceptable attire in First Class and Business Class:
- jeans or denim clothes of any color
- athletic or tennis shoes
- hiking/military style boots
- shorts
- baseball caps
- skin-tight or form fitting pants without mid-thigh length top
Customer service judgement will prevail in matters pertaining to dress code.
The above was from back in 2004, but pretty sure the same rules still apply today. I'm guessing those that don't follow the dress code are those who aren't the UA employees, but those traveling on the benefits of a UA employee and likely are unaccompanied.
Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; May 27, 2008 at 8:43 am
#49
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Based on the behaviour, I did add it to my survey comments. I would have let it go, but the complete experience was enough to annoy me and since they conveniently announced the employee except by name
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UA's policy has actually changed a bit in the past few years...to ride in a premium cabin you used to have to be dressed very nicely; men had to wear a coat and/or tie, women had to wear dresses or dress slacks with pantyhouse, etc. Another employee can correct me, but I think its only been in the last 8 years or so that the dress code for F has fallen to "no jeans, tennis shoes, etc)
I'll correct you, if I may......Actually the dress code has been around as long (longer) than I've worked for United (about 30 years).....No denim, sneakers, flip flops, shorts, T-shirts, collarless shirts, tank tops, sweats, etc. - that was for any class of service. That still applies if you are expecting to fly in F class.
The rules have been relaxed a little if you want to fly only in coach (denim is okay) but still one should not be attired in "beachwear" type (i.e., overexposed) garments, bare midriffs, short-shorts, sloppy cut-offs.
Rule of thumb is - one cannot always be sure they will not end up in F class versus coach. I could list myself to fly in coach and dress the (allowable) part but if the only seat left is in F class and I'm not attired right, I loose.
Isn't there typically something which states a non-rev shouldn't talk about being non-rev or airline employee/family either? There was back when I was <18 flying non-rev on CI, and it never made any sense to me; if people don't know who I am and I don't tell them, why would they care if I'm wearing t-shirt and jeans?
Interesting to see that many airlines have the same dress code for non-rev; must be leftover from decades ago.
Interesting to see that many airlines have the same dress code for non-rev; must be leftover from decades ago.
Yeah, it's just not in good taste to let it be known. But sometimes passengers around you can guess and then to be dressed the wrong way just annoys passengers. I mean if someone, dressed like a slob, got on in F class and I was a revenue paying passenger finding out they were flying non-rev, it would tick me off.
I'm embarrassed to say that when I was new to United (about three months on the job), a coworker and I traveled to Alaska. We were talking to a seatmate (revenue passenger) who inquired of our occupations. We were so gung-ho and excited about working for United - all the free flight benefits and being able to travel all around the world, etc. He listened to our "bragging" with no complaints. However, when we landed and stood up to leave the airplane, three Northwest employees behind us just reamed us up one side and down the other how boorish, loud and bragging we sounded. We couldn't get off that plane quick enough. I never did that again. If someone asks me what I do for a living, I say I work for the IRS as an auditor.
Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; May 28, 2008 at 1:52 am Reason: consecutive posts merged
#51
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Yeah, it's just not in good taste to let it be known. But sometimes passengers around you can guess and then to be dressed the wrong way just annoys passengers.
Ironically, seems that one of UA's major competitors basically ditched its non-rev dress code for the opposite reason... because the non-revs stuck out like a sore thumb.
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I'll correct you, if I may......Actually the dress code has been around as long (longer) than I've worked for United (about 30 years).....No denim, sneakers, flip flops, shorts, T-shirts, collarless shirts, tank tops, sweats, etc. - that was for any class of service. That still applies if you are expecting to fly in F class.
The rules have been relaxed a little if you want to fly only in coach (denim is okay) but still one should not be attired in "beachwear" type (i.e., overexposed) garments, bare midriffs, short-shorts, sloppy cut-offs.
Rule of thumb is - one cannot always be sure they will not end up in F class versus coach. I could list myself to fly in coach and dress the (allowable) part but if the only seat left is in F class and I'm not attired right, I loose.
I'll correct you, if I may......Actually the dress code has been around as long (longer) than I've worked for United (about 30 years).....No denim, sneakers, flip flops, shorts, T-shirts, collarless shirts, tank tops, sweats, etc. - that was for any class of service. That still applies if you are expecting to fly in F class.
The rules have been relaxed a little if you want to fly only in coach (denim is okay) but still one should not be attired in "beachwear" type (i.e., overexposed) garments, bare midriffs, short-shorts, sloppy cut-offs.
Rule of thumb is - one cannot always be sure they will not end up in F class versus coach. I could list myself to fly in coach and dress the (allowable) part but if the only seat left is in F class and I'm not attired right, I loose.
#53
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The dress codes for airline staff are similar across most airlines. I have a friend who worked in the industry and told me a few stories how you can easily spot staff - they are the ones who dress in suits and ties, particularly in F. The attendants usually know where staff sit, so they don't serve them first. One occasion, an attendant spotted a young man in tshirt and jean sitting in F and thought he was staff and told him off about his dress code. As it turned out he was not, rather he was the son of an important person - ceo of a company. So, you can imagine what he would have told his father of the treatment!
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Dress Code for UA employees for First Class?
The other evening, I was traveling from IAD to ORD. The gate agent operating C27 at IAD was a disaster - the likes of which I've really never seen.
I was behind a man trying to board with his First Class ticket - he was refused his seat in first class. Why? She cited United's dress-code policy. As he was wearing jeans, he was not allowed to board first class.
I was not in first class that evening - I was actually just trying to get one of the 30 open Econ Plus seats (which she told me I had to pay for even though I'm Premier Exec). But I could not believe what I was seeing. Has anyone else run into this? A dress code policy for first class?
Further, has anyone else run into problems with acquiring an Econ Plus seat as a Premier Exec (or even Premier) on a flight that maybe has a 40% load? I can understand when it's full and all that jazz, but on a wide-open plane?
Thanks in advance
I was behind a man trying to board with his First Class ticket - he was refused his seat in first class. Why? She cited United's dress-code policy. As he was wearing jeans, he was not allowed to board first class.
I was not in first class that evening - I was actually just trying to get one of the 30 open Econ Plus seats (which she told me I had to pay for even though I'm Premier Exec). But I could not believe what I was seeing. Has anyone else run into this? A dress code policy for first class?
Further, has anyone else run into problems with acquiring an Econ Plus seat as a Premier Exec (or even Premier) on a flight that maybe has a 40% load? I can understand when it's full and all that jazz, but on a wide-open plane?
Thanks in advance
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My thoughts as well; please see: http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=827722
for additional information.
And the gate agent was 110% wrong, any elite member of Mileage Plus has access to Economy Plus seating.
for additional information.
And the gate agent was 110% wrong, any elite member of Mileage Plus has access to Economy Plus seating.
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That was a standby non-revenue employee...NOT a fare paying passenger.
They have specific dress codes for employees traveling in F class.
They have specific dress codes for employees traveling in F class.
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Non-Reve employee perhaps?
From the Employee dress code:
"Unacceptable attire in First and Business class:
Jeans and other denim clothing "
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51003,00.html
From the Employee dress code:
"Unacceptable attire in First and Business class:
Jeans and other denim clothing "
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51003,00.html