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Eastbay1K May 17, 2008 11:06 am

Short-checking bag issue?
 
Ahwile back, I asked to short check a bag on a SFO/LAX/XXX (int'l) trip - not on UA. The check-in agent told me that the computer was trying to SSSS me because of this. Once again, I have a similar trip (SFO/LAX/XXX) with a long LAX connection to another terminal, but with segment one on UA. Any potential problems/issues like in the past?

SkiAdcock May 17, 2008 11:08 am

What does short-checking a bag mean? Don't know the answer to your question obviously.

Cheers.

jef7 May 17, 2008 11:23 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 9739770)
What does short-checking a bag mean? Don't know the answer to your question obviously.

Cheers.

I think in Eastbay1K's flight itinerary, collecting the checked bag not in XXX final destination but at LAX.

Never had to do this though since I never check-in any bags as much as possible.

roberto99 May 17, 2008 12:20 pm

UA stopped short checking bags > 10 years ago.

I suspect they stopped it to discourage hidden city (throwaway segment) ticketing.

Since the UA rules say no, I suspect that the UA agents may refuse to short check the bag for the OP.

ryan182 May 17, 2008 12:26 pm

I've had no problem short-checking a bag, even internationally. The last time I did this I was flying AMS-LHR-LAX and short-checked one of my two bags to LHR so I could drop it off at our London office during my layover.

So its perfectly possible as for the SSSSS dunno its possible but I wasn't when I did this, probably 8 or 9 months ago.

Eastbay1K May 17, 2008 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by roberto99 (Post 9739973)
UA stopped short checking bags > 10 years ago.

I suspect they stopped it to discourage hidden city (throwaway segment) ticketing.

Since the UA rules say no, I suspect that the UA agents may refuse to short check the bag for the OP.

Is that UA*UA only?

SoFlyOn May 17, 2008 3:49 pm

It's a few years ago, but I've short-checked on SFO-LAX(UA)-LIM(RG) without a problem.

goalie May 17, 2008 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by ryan182 (Post 9739997)
I've had no problem short-checking a bag, even internationally. The last time I did this I was flying AMS-LHR-LAX and short-checked one of my two bags to LHR so I could drop it off at our London office during my layover.

So its perfectly possible as for the SSSSS dunno its possible but I wasn't when I did this, probably 8 or 9 months ago.

i was able to short-check flying cdg-lhr-sfo as i was hoping for a bump lhr-sfo (bmi conx to ua) and the bmi agent at cdg wouldn't let me take my wheels as a carry-on as they were above the ridiculous carry-on weight limit so i short checked them to lhr and took them on board with me.

n.b. i didn't get the bump and this was 10 days before the foolish 1 carry-on bag limit in the u.k (and there was so much room in the o/h bins on the bmi flight because no-one had any "normal size" carry-ons that i could have crawled up there and slept stretched out)

tormapleaf Nov 18, 2010 7:23 pm

Does anyone know if I will be able to short check a bag to LAX on a YYZ-LAX-LAS routing. Check in will be with AC in YYZ. If they were to insist on checking the bag to LAS, is there any way to have it retrieved at LAX?

mahasamatman Nov 18, 2010 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by tormapleaf (Post 15195575)
Does anyone know if I will be able to short check a bag to LAX on a YYZ-LAX-LAS routing. Check in will be with AC in YYZ. If they were to insist on checking the bag to LAS, is there any way to have it retrieved at LAX?

It's extremely difficult to find an agent who will short-check a bag. If it's checked through, I can think of no way to get it at LAX. Basically, don't try hidden-city ticketing with checked bags.

emcampbe Nov 18, 2010 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 15195643)
It's extremely difficult to find an agent who will short-check a bag. If it's checked through, I can think of no way to get it at LAX. Basically, don't try hidden-city ticketing with checked bags.

Even if you don't get on the LAX-LAS segment, I'm almost positive the bag will remain on the flight, as bag matching is only done for international flights - not on domestic.

As for short checking, you will probably have to be lucky to find an agent who will do this. Probably more likely if you have a relatively long connection. AC, as I understand, is probably about at least as strict as UA one checking bags, so I wouldn't count on it.

As for me, I was able to short check my bags on UA out of YYZ back in about January, when all those silly carry on restrictions were going on, and they were searching pretty much all carry on luggage. Probably helped that I knew the agent checking me in (and many others, since I am through that station a lot), but I suspect it also helped a lot since I would have been able to carry it on domestically within the US. I had a 2.5 hour layover at ORD, so plenty of time to get the bag and carry it through to my next flight.

JonathanIT Nov 18, 2010 10:57 pm

I short checked a bag not too long ago to LAX... I can't remember where I was flying from but my itinerary was continuing to YVR. I just told the agent when I checked in that I wanted to pick up my bag at LAX because I didn't need it in YVR and a friend was going to meet me and pick it up at LAX. It worked fine.

lainys Nov 19, 2010 12:02 am

My parents tried short-checking their bags at SYD as they were doing SYD-SFO-JFK-SFO-SYD with a legal stopover in SFO on the return segment.

The plan was to pick them up at SFO (SYD-SFO flight arrives around 11am), spend the day with me and then the family was going to take the SFO-JFK red eye together to play tourist in NYC for a few days. Turns out the agent at SYD refused to short-check so everything got tagged to JFK. However bags have to be physically picked up at SFO to clear customs before "transferring" to the domestic leg. Mum says Dad held on and wouldn't let the "helpful" guy take the bags from him to put on the conveyor belt for connecting flights. When I got to SFO that evening I did tell the agent at check in that our bags would not be on the JFK flight with us. Didn't seem to be a problem.

iluv2fly Nov 19, 2010 12:10 am


Originally Posted by lainys (Post 15198335)
My parents tried short-checking their bags at SYD as they were doing SYD-SFO-JFK-SFO-SYD with a legal stopover in SFO on the return segment.

The plan was to pick them up at SFO (SYD-SFO flight arrives around 11am), spend the day with me and then the family was going to take the SFO-JFK red eye together to play tourist in NYC for a few days. Turns out the agent at SYD refused to short-check so everything got tagged to JFK. However bags have to be physically picked up at SFO to clear customs before "transferring" to the domestic leg. Mum says Dad held on and wouldn't let the "helpful" guy take the bags from him to put on the conveyor belt for connecting flights. When I got to SFO that evening I did tell the agent at check in that our bags would not be on the JFK flight with us. Didn't seem to be a problem.

Pick up bag from baggage claim
Rip tag off immediately.
Proceed to exit.
Walk through exit.
"Problem" solved.

lainys Nov 19, 2010 12:17 am


Originally Posted by iluv2fly (Post 15198397)
Pick up bag from baggage claim
Rip tag off immediately.
Proceed to exit.
Walk through exit.
"Problem" solved.

I'll know that for the next time I plan a 3 generation family vacation spanning 2 continents! :)


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