UA Delays Launch of SFO-CAN (Guangzhou)
May 9, 2008, 8:51 am
#46
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Any thoughts if UA might change thier mind and start the SFO-CAN as originally planned?
Here is what has changed:
Apparently NW has announced/introduced SEA-PEK http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=821268 . Apparently they are changing thier NRT-CAN authority to SEA-PEK, so now there is no US flagged service to CAN (right?).
So a couple of questions:
1. Did DoT ultimately grant UA's request to delay the start of the route. And if they did grant the request... could they try to start back as originally planned?
2. Would UA want to do this (start the route as originally planned)? (I don't think that NRT-CAN was a bad route for NW, I just think they feel that SEA-PEK is better).
Here is what has changed:
Apparently NW has announced/introduced SEA-PEK http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=821268 . Apparently they are changing thier NRT-CAN authority to SEA-PEK, so now there is no US flagged service to CAN (right?).
So a couple of questions:
1. Did DoT ultimately grant UA's request to delay the start of the route. And if they did grant the request... could they try to start back as originally planned?
2. Would UA want to do this (start the route as originally planned)? (I don't think that NRT-CAN was a bad route for NW, I just think they feel that SEA-PEK is better).
May 9, 2008, 10:53 am
#48
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Its interesting too because NW also dropped their CAN cargo service as well. You would think that would open up more pax and cargo opportunities for UA.
May 9, 2008, 11:46 am
#49
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Perhaps all the talks about the potential decent passenger and cargo loads in and out CAN never materialized.
Jan 6, 2010, 9:34 am
#50
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Any updates on this route?
Mar 11, 2010, 10:42 pm
#51
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UA gives up this route?
Apr 30, 2010, 10:51 am
#52
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Okay.
UA is seeking one more year delay in SFO-CAN.
Why can't UA just give this up for someone else?
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstra...04087755&imw=Y
UA is seeking one more year delay in SFO-CAN.
Why can't UA just give this up for someone else?
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstra...04087755&imw=Y
Apr 30, 2010, 11:23 am
#53
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Okay.
UA is seeking one more year delay in SFO-CAN.
Why can't UA just give this up for someone else?
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstra...04087755&imw=Y
UA is seeking one more year delay in SFO-CAN.
Why can't UA just give this up for someone else?
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstra...04087755&imw=Y
Apr 30, 2010, 11:24 am
#54
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Because no one else wants it?
NW (DL) doesn't go there anymore, and AA is having trouble launching the ORD-PEK route.
And as the article states, only CO has launched EWR-PVG.
So... who would you suggest begin the service?
NW (DL) doesn't go there anymore, and AA is having trouble launching the ORD-PEK route.
And as the article states, only CO has launched EWR-PVG.
So... who would you suggest begin the service?
Apr 30, 2010, 11:41 am
#55
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Okay.
UA is seeking one more year delay in SFO-CAN.
Why can't UA just give this up for someone else?
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstra...04087755&imw=Y
UA is seeking one more year delay in SFO-CAN.
Why can't UA just give this up for someone else?
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstra...04087755&imw=Y
So its kind of pointless to give UA a hard time about it. Its just that filing for a delay is simpler than giving up the authority and applying again later on.
Apr 30, 2010, 12:26 pm
#56
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I guess you all are right. No one wants this route. The best candidate is DL, I guess, since it is CZ's hub.
If no one wants it, including UA, why do they even bother file the extension, and extension, and maybe another extension? Maybe just give it up and apply it again until UA wants to do it and the route is available.
If no one wants it, including UA, why do they even bother file the extension, and extension, and maybe another extension? Maybe just give it up and apply it again until UA wants to do it and the route is available.
May 1, 2010, 10:02 pm
#57
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I guess you all are right. No one wants this route. The best candidate is DL, I guess, since it is CZ's hub.
If no one wants it, including UA, why do they even bother file the extension, and extension, and maybe another extension? Maybe just give it up and apply it again until UA wants to do it and the route is available.
If no one wants it, including UA, why do they even bother file the extension, and extension, and maybe another extension? Maybe just give it up and apply it again until UA wants to do it and the route is available.
In the last conference call UA said Asian travel is up significantly, so while recovery is not here.... it is in sight.
Oct 8, 2012, 12:55 pm
#58
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dose anyone have any updates on this? with DL announcing more China flight from SEA, maybe its time for UA to step up
