Hip Checks???
 

can someone please translate this for me. thanks

HIP = Higher Interpoint Price.

Cerain fares are "Routing Fares". That means that you have to take one of many specific routes. So, for instance, a JFK-NRT fare would allow transit in only IAD/ORD/SFO/LAX. (Just an example; I have no idea about JFK-NRT fare). They also usually spcify no stopovers.

Other fares are "MPM Fares" (MPM = Maximum Permitted Mileage). This means you can take ANY routing you want, through pretty much any city, but you cannot exceed XXXX miles. These fares allow unlimited stopovers. HOWEVER, these fares are subject to HIP check. What that means is that if you stop over in a city in between your O & D, which is a more expensive market, the ticket will be re-fared for that market.

Example (illustrative):

D class fare JFK-BKK = $5000
D class fare JFK-NRT = $10000

I can travel JFK-LAX-NRT-BKK with no stopovers for $5000. I can choose pretty much any routing under the MPM. HOWEVER, if I stopover in NRT, the ticket will be repriced at the JFK-NRT fare of $10000, since NRT is a Higher Interpoint Price.

Essentially means no-stopovers in more expensive cities.

thanks for the explanation. I am not sure where UA thinks I'll stop-over LAS-NRT :)

Is this an MPM fare? What is the fare basis. Since LAS-LAX or LAX-SFO is certainly cheaper than LAS-NRT, you would be permitted stopovers in those cities. (If this is an MPM fare which allows stopovers).

H booking class. rules say "Higher Intermediate Point."

Sorry, yeah. That's what it stands for. Definition the same. What does it say about stopovers? Unlimited? MPM? (looking at routing in EF).

It's nice to see that UA finally has a knowledgeable representative here on FT. :D

One has to assume this didn't come from a hockey team's playbook ;) :D

goalies don't like hip checks ;)

Similar in use to the BHC, or one way backhaul check. If an intermediate point has a higher fare than the origin and detination fare (and a stop over applies at that point) one would subtract the current fare from the higher intermediate fare, then add that on to the price of the ticket.

It is to prevent people from the "hidden city" ticketing that was so prevelant in the US years back, although these HIP and BHC rules are part of international (not domestic) fare construction.

What non-stop flights are there LAS-NRT? Are they TED flights?

Maybe HNL? Or maybe it is just in there because it is in all fare rules. You shouldn't assume all fare rules are as accurate and up to date as airlines want them to be...
Yes, but LAX-NRT or SFO-NRT may be more expensive than LAS-NRT, in which case you cannot stopover in LAX or SFO.

ORD is higher and qualifies for the fares with a 20% surcharge for exceeding your MPM. It is still cheaper to book a LAS-ORD-NRT routing without stopover and including the 20% than it is to book a ORD-NRT. As soon as you stopover in ORD< though, the rules we are talking about would come into play, and you would not be able to do this without a fare contstruction penalty applying.

And here I thought that a HIP check was going to be something they did at the ticket counter to ensure you fit in your seat before boarding! :D

I have to admit that for one instant I imagined a frame to check waist and hip size at check in. If you do not pass you will
1. get an op-up to C/F
2. be placed in a free, yet supposed to be blocked middle seat in E+.

RandomFlyer was thinking / typing quicker than me!