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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
(Post 7854332)
If it's like cash, does that mean if I find someone else's ticket I can fly instead of the person named on the ticket?
IF you have ID that says you have the same name, you can, fraudulantly. It's like any other ticket....concert/sport/bus/gift card... The point of a ticket is an exchange for something of value. They aren't receipts. A receipt is not a ticket. There are procedures for a lost ticket, and the more information in the reservation (and the last page of the booklet provides much of it, provided it wasn't a consolidator or issued on any stock other than UA's <016>.) I don't recall what they are, but a LTA (lost ticket application) may be able to provide somoe of the difference back after the fact. Save the origianl receipt, as well as the new receipt for the new ticket, as both data must be on the LTA. It's been many years since I saw a LTA...not sure if the procedure has changed (ETKTS have virtually eliminated the need for both PTA's and LTAs which cost the customer $$ <in addition to paper ticket fees.>) It is the burden of the customer to make sure they have their tickets when the agent returns them at previous stops. Just like at the grocery store....maybe they forget to bag something up and the next guy takes it. A receip isn't going to get you another item for free. That being said, it is possible that UA pulled the ticket by mistake earlier. Ask any ticket counter for a LTA and see if they can help you with it...it is a long form, I think in triplicate, and I don't know what the fee on it is, I think it is $100, but that may have changed. (I think the fee is deducted from refund, of newly purchased ticket, so you don't need to pay an additional fee.) Good luck, and sorry they had a bad experience. |
AFAIK, individual coupons are not valid with the receipt (so you couldn't fly with just a single coupon.)
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Originally Posted by laser
(Post 7854439)
I'm just trying to understand how he believes the gate agent pulled the wrong one.
I have no idea why FT'ers are such a heartless lot. It seems that whenever an infrequent flier experiences a problem, it's always the passenger's fault. :rolleyes: Mistakes happen on both sides, but in a case like this, it's pretty easy for the airline to fix at no cost to anybody. |
Originally Posted by mikew99
(Post 7854968)
I have no idea why FT'ers are such a heartless lot. It seems that whenever an infrequent flier experiences a problem, it's always the passenger's fault. :rolleyes: Mistakes happen on both sides, but in a case like this, it's pretty easy for the airline to fix at no cost to anybody.
Someone claimed to have traveled in China and "learned the procedures" in advance. Well, I took a train trip across China last summer, and I can tell you that the ticket customs in China were largely incomprehensible to a non-Chinese-speaker. Sometimes they took your ticket, sometimes they held on to it. Sometimes they'd give it back to you. Bottomline is that you TRUSTED the agents to handle your tickets appropriately. That's what this group of visiting Chinese did here. And UA repaid them that trust by charging them $200 for a mistake that one of their agents made. There has been some very helpful suggestions here -- such as the LTA -- and I will pursue that for them. I'm not terribly hopeful, however. I generally find UA customer service to be dismal (I'm going to get India if I call, right?), albeit occasionally randomly generous. I'll hope for the best. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 7856038)
I'm not terribly hopeful, however. I generally find UA customer service to be dismal (I'm going to get India if I call, right?), albeit occasionally randomly generous. I'll hope for the best.
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Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 7853892)
It's obvious the person had a ticket and, through no fault of his own, somebody pulled it (almost certainly a previous gate agent).
LAS did the right thing. You can't let someone on the plane without a ticket. Especially a paper ticket. Those must be treated like cash. Especially in LAS. There are many places in LAS where a paper ticket can be "pawned" of traded by a gambler for cash. I have seen this happen before. So, what needs to happen is that the paper ticket needs to be reported lost. Then you can get it refunded or credited as an unused ticket. Sorry to hear about this mis-fortune. But accidents do happen. I wouldn't blame the previous agent unless there was proof. Those paper tickets are pretty fragile. |
Yes, you CAN travel under someone else's name
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 7854351)
Good point. These days, it would be pretty much impossible for anyone to use your ticket absent forged documents and such or a similarly elaborate scheme.
Let's say someone found a ticket, under someone else's name, for domestic travel on an expensive fare. You wouldn't need to be that person once past security, because nobody checks ID past that point. You could somehow get a gate pass (not so easy) or buy a refundable ticket or simply a very cheap fare to anyplace and, once "inside", become whomever the person is on the ticket. |
Originally Posted by Mike Jacoubowsky
(Post 7857045)
You could somehow get a gate pass (not so easy) or buy a refundable ticket or simply a very cheap fare to anyplace and, once "inside", become whomever the person is on the ticket.
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Originally Posted by planeluvr
(Post 7857582)
Who is going to issue the boarding pass without ID on a paper ticket?
The bottomline in this case is that the real risk of someone else getting their hands on this passenger's ticket (the fare for the segment was less than $100) was a number approaching zero. It is a shame they insisted on charging the full fare at the airport. I will see what I can get them to do for him now. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 7854351)
Good point. These days, it would be pretty much impossible for anyone to use your ticket absent forged documents and such or a similarly elaborate scheme.
Originally Posted by planeluvr
(Post 7857582)
Who is going to issue the boarding pass without ID on a paper ticket?
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