IAD-Dubai to start soon
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#17
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My opinion is that the route would operate with the 772, not the 744. It is much easier to fill the 772, and UA will likely opt to be conservative at the route's inception.
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The a/c will probably be the one being pulled from HNL-KIX later this year.
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my guess will be it will be a direct flight, UA981/982 that goes to KWI. it's on the ground for quite a long time. i doubt UA can sustain a flight to KWI and DXB from IAD at the same time. but who knows
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I was thinking the same thing. Either way, this is great news, as I have always wanted to visit DXB! ^
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This is indeed great news...It's always tough to fly through FRA on LH, especially since the flight to DXB is in the early afternoon, leaving several hours for many TATL connections inbound.
Great way to compete with DL as well, since they have recently started (will be starting?) nonstop service to DXB from ATL. Obviously UA won't be able to compete with EK; but nice to have choices for more US-based airlines to that part of the world ^
Great way to compete with DL as well, since they have recently started (will be starting?) nonstop service to DXB from ATL. Obviously UA won't be able to compete with EK; but nice to have choices for more US-based airlines to that part of the world ^
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I think a KWI tag is the most likely, at least to start. The KWI flight arrives at 5:05pm and doesn't turn back around the the US until 11:25pm. That is over 6 hours they have to do a ~1.5 hour each way flight. This should be very possible! ^
Note that TG already flies DXB-KWI-DXB daily, but the KWI-DXB direction is the only reasonable connection to/from the UA KWI flight.
Note that TG already flies DXB-KWI-DXB daily, but the KWI-DXB direction is the only reasonable connection to/from the UA KWI flight.
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I hope this won't bring problems with the partnership with EK just like DL had when it started DXB service, but OTOH UA does not issue awards on the US-DXB EK flights.
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I don't think this is a good move. Its succesful for EK b/c they have connections to many places from DXB, while for US carriers they would pax from Canada, US & Mexico. And I don't really see much demand for that happening soon. Plus can UA match EK's premium products?
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Would this mean the future entry of Emirates in Star Alliance ?
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The article claims it is a direct flight, not a non-stop, which would allude to it being a tag off the IAD-KWI flight. As far as it being direct from NYC to DXB, UA still has at least 1 flight a day from LGA. Changing the flight number on the LGA-IAD flight could build a 2-stop "direct flight" from LGA to DBX.
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I would guess that the flight goes daily and upgraded to a 747. Iad-Kwi-Dxb
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The article claims it is a direct flight, not a non-stop, which would allude to it being a tag off the IAD-KWI flight. As far as it being direct from NYC to DXB, UA still has at least 1 flight a day from LGA. Changing the flight number on the LGA-IAD flight could build a 2-stop "direct flight" from LGA to DBX.
If I am not mistaken, under the rules of the "Fly America Act," an available IAD-KWI-DXB routing would require US government employees and contractors to fly UA.
US government employees and contracts are only permitted to fly a foreign flag carrier under certain circumstances, such as the following. The existence of IAD-KWI-DXB would definitely prohibit them fly flying EK.
Travel between points outside the U.S. Use of a Foreign Carrier is permissible if:
• Travel by foreign carrier would eliminate two (2) or more aircraft changes en route; or
• Travel by U.S. carrier would extend the total travel time six (6) hours or more than would travel by foreign carrier.
• Travel by foreign carrier would eliminate two (2) or more aircraft changes en route; or
• Travel by U.S. carrier would extend the total travel time six (6) hours or more than would travel by foreign carrier.