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Gator11 Apr 29, 2007 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by dawg1k (Post 7498465)
I considered that. I've done LAX --> IAD --> CAE a couple of times and gotten on the 777 going to AMS.

However, I hate IAD's G Terminal and got stuck in CAE due to a bad aircraft and had to re-route to ORD (at least I got out) and then rode in the last row of an A320 in E- (wow--I didn't realize how bad that could be).

That said, if I had bad aircraft in ATL, I have more choices than CAE so that is a thought (except Mesa is the one flying the RJ from IAD to ATL and back).

I just thought I would mention that IAD's G Terminal no longer exists. When Independence Air went out of business UAX took over the A gates again. It's better than the G terminal, but it still can get pretty crowded and sometimes it is hard to hear the boarding calls because multiple gates are boarding at the same time.

Pat89339 Apr 29, 2007 8:46 pm

Someone on FT used to have a signature line: Friends don't let friends fly RJs It is a statement I agree with wholeheartedly.

rwinn Apr 29, 2007 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by bhmlurker (Post 7500488)
There's no avoiding CRJs for me. EVERY flight out of BHM on UA is either CRJ-200 or 700s :(

Isn't 700s just longer version of 200s? Same diameter aluminum tube?

Yes and no. The 200s and 700s (and 900s for that matter) are the same sized tube, but the 700s and 900s actually have a lower floor than the 200. This results in increased headroom for the cabin and allows windows to be viewed from more reasonable viewing angles.

You don't have to tilt your neck at such an unnatural angle to look out the window in a 700 or 900.

kona1K Apr 29, 2007 10:44 pm

claustrophobic and small UA planes
 
I fly United almost 200K a year. The last thing in the world that
I was, was claustrophobic until a year or so ago. The last few
years I have had to fly hundreds of flights on United small planes
and it got to the point that if I did not have a isle seat near the
front of the plane I would start to almost freak out, as a 1K MM
I usually got the seat area I wanted but a few times with weather
etc. I found my self in window seats totally in the back and
actually got off the plane and waited several hours for a bigger
plane.

Finally I talked to several doctors who specialize in claustrophobic
people and all of them said this was becoming more and more
common with people who fly a lot.

One doc gave me a RX for alprazolam 0.05MG and told me to take
one before flying on a small plane, I have not tried this yet as I
refuse to get on one.

Believe me it can happen to you, its not fun.

TechGeek Apr 29, 2007 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by mlasser (Post 7498819)
When I fly Den-ATl my only choice is an RJ. For flights over an hour from Denver, I use Frontier instead. 4 hours on an RJ is insane. No IFE, cramped seats, surly FA who hates their job. Ack! On Frontier you get Direct TV, movies, free food like bagels and pizza sticks, an A319 with leather seats and a cheaper price tag.


To each there own but I have flown that route several RTs this year on the ERJ 170, great plane in either first or bulkhead. I have had no problem getting an upgrade on that route OR in the case of this week I got a cheap Q UP fare that was actually the same price as a Frontier seat on that route, I will take the excellent domestic first class seat for the same price thank you :)

Wainwright Apr 29, 2007 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by psemerson (Post 7508767)
RJs aren't a lot of fun for two hours or so, but they beat the EMB-120 that UE/SkyWest flies around California. The LAX-PSP run (my usual beat) isn't too bad, except for the approach to PSP on a hot and windy day. The LAS-PSP route -- which has begun with the pilot talking to the cabin and noting how safe the plane is -- is like going across a rutty field in a pickup with no suspension.

Absolutely! SAN-LAX and CLD-LAX are, generally speaking, not bad flights. Right up the coast on a sunny day and they would even be bearable but for the prop noise/vibration. Oh, turbulence often doesnt bother me, but if you're up for some fun, get on one of those flights during anything that resembles a santa ana, and just watch the pax faces ;) .

LASUA1K Apr 29, 2007 11:33 pm


Originally Posted by kona1K (Post 7660950)
I fly United almost 200K a year. The last thing in the world that
I was, was claustrophobic until a year or so ago. The last few
years I have had to fly hundreds of flights on United small planes
and it got to the point that if I did not have a isle seat near the
front of the plane I would start to almost freak out, as a 1K MM
I usually got the seat area I wanted but a few times with weather
etc. I found my self in window seats totally in the back and
actually got off the plane and waited several hours for a bigger
plane.

Finally I talked to several doctors who specialize in claustrophobic
people and all of them said this was becoming more and more
common with people who fly a lot.

One doc gave me a RX for alprazolam 0.05MG and told me to take
one before flying on a small plane, I have not tried this yet as I
refuse to get on one.

Believe me it can happen to you, its not fun.



This has happened to me. I was on a flight from springfield, MO to Ord. Tornado sirens were going off but we decide to take off. I should've got off but i didn't. I stayed on the plane and was stuck in a window seat. Trying to get up on a crj200 in the middle of thunderstorms was awful. To make it worse when we were landing we got to close to a 747 and the plane rocked back and forth like we were out of control. This is the last time i fly an rj. i will never again do it. I choose southwest or AA when united only has rj on certain routes. I prefer flying to another airport and driving the rest of the way. I was never scared of flying until this incident.

bunderhill Apr 30, 2007 1:25 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 7499095)
I'd rather fly a SF-3 or an EMB-120 than a CRJ-200. :td:

I never thought someone would rather fly a Brazzy than a jet!

When I flew from SAN to LAX, there was a brief glorious time when UX flew the CRJ-200s instead of the Brazzy. I was loving it. Now it's all Brazzys all the time. They do one CRJ-700 at the end of the night, returning the next morning. Otherwise you can't avoid the Brazzy anymore.

bunderhill Apr 30, 2007 1:31 am


Originally Posted by kona1K (Post 7660950)
One doc gave me a RX for alprazolam 0.05MG and told me to take
one before flying on a small plane, I have not tried this yet as I
refuse to get on one.

Believe me it can happen to you, its not fun.

I fly a ton and get it...

Don't take the drug, you actually get worse over time (if it is a narcotic that gets you wasted). That's cause you never actually "deal with it" to get better.

A beta blocker drug is much better, you don't get stoned, but your body is still calm and doesn't over react.

I had to fly a Delta crj 700 from PWM to ATL. 3 hours with no e+ on a full plane, window seat!! That was pretty brutal. I looked like a praying mantis trying to type on my laptop scrunched between my legs and chin.

I don't normally get claustraphobic but I was starting to on that one.

bunderhill Apr 30, 2007 1:38 am


Originally Posted by LASUA1K (Post 7661064)
I was never scared of flying until this incident.

If you are based in LAS, you should have nerves of steel. My worst bumpiest flights always involve LAS.

Summer heat + winds + whatever else makes Vegas bumpy = E ticket ride.

Last time coming in to Vegas a gal in the back freaked, thought she was having heart attack, paramedics get on to look at her. Was just panic attack.

LASUA1K Apr 30, 2007 7:58 am


Originally Posted by bunderhill (Post 7661324)
If you are based in LAS, you should have nerves of steel. My worst bumpiest flights always involve LAS.

Summer heat + winds + whatever else makes Vegas bumpy = E ticket ride.

Last time coming in to Vegas a gal in the back freaked, thought she was having heart attack, paramedics get on to look at her. Was just panic attack.

Vegas is the worst place to fly from. I was never scared until after an RJ incident. Now i fly out of Vegas in the AM or the red eye flight. These flights seem to be the only ones that don't rock as hard.

bhmlurker May 11, 2007 7:37 am


Originally Posted by rwinn (Post 7660935)
You don't have to tilt your neck at such an unnatural angle to look out the window in a 700 or 900.

Just came back on an UX skywest explus CRJ 700, and I take my word back :) The E+ seat being leather and softer, was more comfortable than the typical mainline E+. Yes I can now look out the window without craning my neck like a flamingo. There's no chance to get stuck in the middle (not that the chance is that high for us, but still). The main thing it lacks is channel 9.

I've come to realize that my beef with UX CRJs was the lack of E+ and leg room. If only they can mod all the non explus planes ...

Noodle May 11, 2007 10:24 pm

it is what it is
 
I fly LAX-OAK 100 segments a year on the CRJ 200 and about 30 segments LAX-ASE on the CRJ 700..get 1C on the 200 and 3C on the 700..it is what it is...not great, not bad...just long enough to read two newspapers

p1cunnin May 11, 2007 11:26 pm

I just got home from ORD-SFO-SAT-ORD. I could have had three direct flights, but did ORD-SFO, SFO-DEN-SAT, SAT-DEN-ORD just to stay away from 3+ hour flights on RJs (ok, the extra segments and miles were ok, too). I'll tolerate them for short haul (up to 90 minutes), but no longer. And it seems like everything to Texas out of ORD is going UX.

I'm also finding that roller coaster rides on the RJ fleet will make me motion sick -- and that has never happened on mainline.

The E-170 isn't bad, but it doesn't seem like I can get them enough on my routes, so I stick with mainline.

It also seems like UX is much more likely to strand you when there are irreg ops, so I stick to mainline whenever possible.

And I was real happy to score 9J on UA 256 tonight. That is my new favorite seat

Howard May 11, 2007 11:56 pm

Yes, I avoid RJs. If RJs are all UA offers on a route, I fly another airline such as WN.


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