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IFlyMRY Apr 24, 2006 10:55 pm

More Changes to MP Program re: *A Miles
 
"As of March 13, 2006 all *A Partners require the ORIGINAL BP and a copy of the receipt to credit ""missing" miles"". per Rapid City MP tonight.

I took a TG RT BKK-CNX in March via TG e-ticket. The e-ticket but not the BP have my MP #. When no credit posted after 2 weeks I called and was told it takes "up to 60 days for *A credit to post". In my experience, if the flight doesn't automatically post after 2 weeks it isn't going to. I faxed a copy of my receipt and BPs to MP and received this email:

" In order to receive credit for missing flights flown on partner
> airlines, you must mail in a copy of the passenger/e-ticket receipt and the ORIGINAL BOARDING PASSES.
>
> Please mail these required documents to:
>
> Mileage Plus
> PO Box 6122
> Rapid City SD 57709-6122
>
> We will forward your information to the partner for credit approval.
>
> Thank you for being a 1K member, your business is appreciated.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Service Director
> Mileage Plus"

I called MP and was told that the policy had changed on March 13, 2006 and that "ALL *A Partners require the ORIGINAL BP and a copy of the receipt to credit "missing" miles." :td: :td:

Reminds me of the Rainmaker and the Great Benefit Insurance Company's Claims Manual:

Quote:

"Is that a complete Great Benefit claims manual, sir?"

"- Yes. -"

"Does it have a section U?"

"It has a section U."

"Let's talk about this mysterious section U. Let's explain it to the jury. Just read paragraph three."

"Claim handlers are directed to deny all claims within three days."

iwillflytheworld Apr 25, 2006 12:18 am

Be sure to keep a copy of the BPs and proof of mailing in case MP "loses" the original BPs as it usually happens... :rolleyes:

This is just an excuse to make it harder to claim past credit.

BrisbanePE Apr 25, 2006 5:54 am

I'm not sure what the change in policy was. I had to send original BP to claim LH miles a couple of years back. I thought they always wanted original BP for *A.

yyzprincess Apr 25, 2006 6:43 am


Originally Posted by BrisbanePE
I'm not sure what the change in policy was. I had to send original BP to claim LH miles a couple of years back. I thought they always wanted original BP for *A.


Same here.Last year I was told I had to send in my original BP for my TG flight that had not posted. UA is not anexception.
AC requires an original BP as well to post *A flights if they have not been posted.

ksu Apr 25, 2006 6:47 am

So does SAS for the SK EB program.

IFlyMRY Apr 25, 2006 9:54 am

Ok, after talking with the SD at MP this morning things are a little clearer. She said that during this past 6 months ALL *A carriers have required Original BPs to post the miles. In the past only select *A carriers required this.

My point was that if TG had my name and ticket # they could easily pull up the record and see that I took the flight. She said that the reason for the original BPs was that too many ffers were trying to get credit in multiple programs for the same flight.

Is this a glimps of what is to come...no automatic credit on *A flights? :confused:

Is there a better work around for the carriers and or frequent flyers?

TCKFlier Apr 25, 2006 11:13 am

Part of the issue with original BPs is that because airlines have multiple partners, there have been many cases of attempted (and successful) double-dipping... And the airlines being charged for the miles are tired of it... If you must send the original BPs in the mail, you might want to get a return receipt or some other way of proving you sent them...

Fiumicino Apr 25, 2006 11:47 am

And what about OLCI, you just print it twice and that would be it if you want to double dip. Really this is a policy just to make things more difficult, I would be surprised they send they forward the boarding pass to the partner.

nor4 Apr 25, 2006 12:11 pm

I took a flight LIS-FRA on TAP with an LH flight number and LH from FRA-IAD on pure LH on Jan 29. After the usual "it will take a few weeks..." I was asked to fax the BPs to UA, about a month later. On repeated followup calls I've been told LH is taking longer than usual now to credit miles.

A second flight going to the Berlin DO on March 16 I was on LH FRA-TXL. Same story, faxed BP, no response from LH.

Consistent but hardly seamless.

qasr Apr 25, 2006 12:14 pm


Originally Posted by MNLGuy
Part of the issue with original BPs is that because airlines have multiple partners, there have been many cases of attempted (and successful) double-dipping... And the airlines being charged for the miles are tired of it... If you must send the original BPs in the mail, you might want to get a return receipt or some other way of proving you sent them...

Exactly the problem. I can see the airlines perspective on this, it is just annoying that the burden of proof falls on the pax, and not the airline. :rolleyes:

qasr Apr 25, 2006 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by Fiumicino
And what about OLCI, you just print it twice and that would be it if you want to double dip. Really this is a policy just to make things more difficult, I would be surprised they send they forward the boarding pass to the partner.

I don't think any *A partners (besides UA & US) allow online printing of BP's. I know LH & SQ allow online check in, but you do not print your BP and need to pick it up at the airport.

IFlyMRY Apr 25, 2006 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by qasr
Exactly the problem. I can see the airlines perspective on this, it is just annoying that the burden of proof falls on the pax, and not the airline. :rolleyes:

It is more than annoying. I can see the airlines perspective on this too....."Why should I have to do the work to keep track of this when I can shove it off to the ffer and maybe it won't cost me a dime" :rolleyes:

If a *A partner pays out they should have a record of it and only pay out once. Seems simple enough. Am I missing something?

BayAreaPilot Apr 25, 2006 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by qasr
I don't think any *A partners (besides UA & US) allow online printing of BP's. I know LH & SQ allow online check in, but you do not print your BP and need to pick it up at the airport.

Online check-in or not, it's easy enough to "lose" your boarding pass and get it reprinted.

qasr Apr 25, 2006 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by IFlyMRY
If a *A partner pays out they should have a record of it and only pay out once. Seems simple enough. Am I missing something?

Yes. You're missing that their record system is the original boarding pass. :)

qasr Apr 25, 2006 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by BayAreaPilot
Online check-in or not, it's easy enough to "lose" your boarding pass and get it reprinted.

But if the operating carrier receives two, one from UA and one from, say, LH, they will know somehting is up.

I'm not defending the idea, I think it is stupid too, but thats the way it is. Play the game and take the miles ... or leave them.


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