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Originally Posted by djerikd
She'd rather not know if the aircraft has had mechanical or structural repairs as the one time I found out we were about to fly on a plane that had a tail strike in it's history...
Originally Posted by UNITED959
Just tell her UA is the largest consumer of duct tape... :D
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Does anyone know what nose # 744 have before they all become 81XX ? Is it 81XX means it is a 744-OB ? What about OA and OP ?
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Originally Posted by WindFlyer
...that works well at night (when the tail numbers may be hard to see) is to look at the nose number (four digits). Take away the second digit, and you've got the tail number.
Admittedly, this doesn't work when the gate/boarding areas don't have windows out into the tarmac... But where is the nose number? You say I need to see out of the gate/boarding area, so I assume it's on the front of the aircraft. But I googled up a bunch of UA 747 pix and can't see any nose numbers on either side of them (but the tail numbers are clearly visible). :confused: |
I go through phases - some months I am good about writing down every reg no., then other months I think, what's the bloody point?
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Originally Posted by jrblack
But where is the nose number? You say I need to see out of the gate/boarding area, so I assume it's on the front of the aircraft. But I googled up a bunch of UA 747 pix and can't see any nose numbers on either side of them (but the tail numbers are clearly visible). :confused:
AFAIK, the general format is as follows: first digit = fleet type (same as the tail number) second digit = sub-type (to distinguish between, say the different 777 configurations) last two digits = the aircraft number in the fleet series (same as the tail number) So if you know the number for your fleet type (i.e. "5" for 757s), then you only need the last two digits... |
Nose numbers are located below the cockpit, under the cheatline - roughly half way between the cheatline and the nosewheel area. Anyway it's the only number there so you can't miss it. Sometimes it's also got an ETOPS marker (on a twin, obviously) if that's applicable.
The "take out the 2nd digit from the fleet / nose number" trick is generally OK, but not in all cases since the fleet numbers (first 2 digits) don't always match reality (eg: 8107, = N107UA, but 2366 = N766UA). It's basically the last 2 digits plus knowing the tail number registrations for each fleet (eg: 777's are N7xxUA *and* N2xxUA, 737's are N3xxUA & N9xxUA) so they don't always match up. Just for interest with the 2nd digit - that refers to what I call the cabin configuration version number, or plane type -this is most useful when a fleet is undergoing upgrade like a seat swap or something - those numbers can tell you if you will get a nasty surprise on the inside or not. Referring to the earlier question about the 744 OB's, OA's & OP's... my distorted memory suggests that the OA's (the high density equipment w/80? C, 270Y) were 80xx and the OP's (the low density pacific config) were 83xx's - though I could be wrong on that. I have more info on this at home I'll try and scrounge it up. |
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Originally Posted by AX9465
I wonder whether there is something similar to this for International flights... IATA or someone should have some statistic....
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Originally Posted by AX9465
I wonder whether there is something similar to this for International flights... IATA or someone should have some statistic....
Also, this is a great site for all LHR arrivals/departures: http://www.lhr-lgw.co.uk/ I do admit I keep a flight log with reg numbers. My wife thinks I'm a nerd, but I think it's way cool when I step on a plane that I was on 2 weeks ago and sit in the same seat. -Ualisthebst |
Thanks guys, I'm learning a ton.
Here's my table for UA then: If tail is NabcUA then the 'a' digit (first digit) indicates: a digit aircraft type ------ ------------ 1 744 2 777 3 733 4 320 5 752 6 767 7 777 8 319 9 735 But this leaves me perplexed... doesn't UA have more than 100 752s? And what number range to CRJs and EMs get? And what will they do with the rumored new 787s? |
Originally Posted by RichardMEL
Referring to the earlier question about the 744 OB's, OA's & OP's... my distorted memory suggests that the OA's (the high density equipment w/80? C, 270Y) were 80xx and the OP's (the low density pacific config) were 83xx's - though I could be wrong on that.
I have more info on this at home I'll try and scrounge it up. |
Originally Posted by jrblack
I know some of you like to track the aircraft you fly in, just for the fun of it. Plane-spotters are even more gung-ho (and these days, more arrested).
I decided to write down the tail numbers of my flights this week; it wasn't too hard during the daytime, but at night, I can't see the tails well enough. I imagine bad weather makes it worse. Is there somewhere on board where the tail number is listed? I was chatting with an FA this evening who said it was listed up front and she would go find it. She brought me a napkin with "4940" written on it. The other numbers I collected were of the form N###UA, where ### is a three-digit number. So I thought she must be confused. Sure enough, I deplaned in the dark; even tho I couldn't read the tail number, it definitely wasn't 4940. Ok, UA/aircraft gurus... what do I do? I'm not going to carry binocs with me, so don't go there. http://www.united-virtual.com/upload...+%20selcal.xls Enjoy! |
737-300
10XX 98XX 99XX 737-500 15XX 16XX A319 40XX A320 45XX Overwater Ted 46XX 47XX Overwater 48XX Ted 49XX Ted 757-200 54XX 55XX overwater ETOPS 56XX overwater 57XX premium service 767-300 63XX 67XX 2 cabin 777-200 23XX 25XX 2 cabin 26XX pacific 28XX 29XX 747-400 81XX The "XX" can be found in the reg number. The reg number will always start with "N" and end in "UA". So from the post above, if you have a 757, which will have a reg code that starts with 5, and the nose number is 5440, then the reg number will be N540UA. That link above is really nice, and has a ton of good info in it. Unfortunately, it does not have nose numbers, but with my info and the other info posted here, you can figure it out. I have found this info out on this internet before as well, and even logic behind other airlines' reg numbers. Question: on the link above, what does the column "SELCAL" mean? |
Question: on the link above, what does the column "SELCAL" mean?
"SELCAL" means "selective calling", which is a technique that allows a ground radio operator to alert an aircrew that the operator wishes to communicate with that aircraft. When the ground station operator wishes to communicate with an aircraft, he enters into the SELCAL encoder the 4-letter code of that aircraft, which is usually included in its flight plan, and transmits that code over an assigned radio channel. All aircraft monitoring that channel receive the SELCAL broadcast, but only those (preferably only one) that have been programmed with that 4-letter code will respond by sounding a chime or otherwise alerting the crew. The crew will then set their volume control higher to listen to the voice traffic and to assure that the message is intended for them. Hope that helps. |
Originally Posted by jrblack
I know some of you like to track the aircraft you fly in, just for the fun of it. Plane-spotters are even more gung-ho (and these days, more arrested).
I decided to write down the tail numbers of my flights this week; it wasn't too hard during the daytime, but at night, I can't see the tails well enough. I imagine bad weather makes it worse. Is there somewhere on board where the tail number is listed? I was chatting with an FA this evening who said it was listed up front and she would go find it. She brought me a napkin with "4940" written on it. The other numbers I collected were of the form N###UA, where ### is a three-digit number. So I thought she must be confused. Sure enough, I deplaned in the dark; even tho I couldn't read the tail number, it definitely wasn't 4940. Ok, UA/aircraft gurus... what do I do? I'm not going to carry binocs with me, so don't go there. I also start a stop watch when we start a take off roll and use it to time the flight --- there's method in my madness because from the crew announcements I can tell precisely how much time is left in the flight and use that to determine how I'm going to use the time..... Bob H |
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