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transpac Aug 9, 2005 7:01 am


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
This may have changed in the past 18 years,

Based on my experiences things have definitely changed in the past 18 years.

I've been on the PA waitlist nine months in advance of my travel date and cleared the upgrade 7 months in advance of my travel date. I could clearly see the PA waitlist for my itinerary on viewtrip.com. Many, many others have posted similar experiences and information.

N227UA Aug 9, 2005 9:55 am


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
These abreviations are common throughout the industry, like "HK", "WL," "NN", etc., even though the exact way the airlines clear their waitlists may differ.



Okay. I understand that HK is Holds Confirmed and NN is Need Request. Then what is WL?

qasr Aug 9, 2005 9:59 am


Originally Posted by N227UA
Okay. I understand that HK is Holds Confirmed and NN is Need Request. Then what is WL?

Wailist would be the obvious answer...

iluv2fly Aug 9, 2005 11:22 am


Originally Posted by qasr
Wailist would be the obvious answer...

Waitlist would be even more obvious...

tann1001 Aug 9, 2005 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by iluv2fly
Waitlist would be even more obvious...

:D

NeoOfTheCRS Aug 9, 2005 12:47 pm

SEA_Tigger is Right
 
I found out today that using a Mileage Upgrade Award (15,000 miles on a full fare Y transpacfic flight) put me on the PB and NOT the PA list :mad: What gives?? :confused: Agent told me that if I was using a SWU, I'd be on the PA list. This even being 1K.

When did this change? Or has it always been this way?

goplaces Aug 9, 2005 3:24 pm

In Denver a few weeks ago, a GA used the terms "Priority A" and "Priority B", which makes me think they aren't all dumped together when it goes to airport control.

The situation: there was a 2:00 PM flight that was significantly delayed, and many passengers needed to be accomodated on the flight in question, around an 8:00 PM departure. There were also passengers with confirmed reservations on a 9:00 departure, who were standing by for the 8:00. The gate agent made an announcement that anyone with a confirmed reservation for 9:00 would not clear the waitlist, because the inconvenienced passengers would be Priority A and clear before the passengers who were just trying to go standby (they would be Priority B). So United must have some sort of parallel DM lists, or at least a way of giving inconvenienced passengers some priority.

SEA_Tigger Aug 9, 2005 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by goplaces
In Denver a few weeks ago, a GA used the terms "Priority A" and "Priority B", which makes me think they aren't all dumped together when it goes to airport control.

In the case you note, the BP codes (referenced by kluau88 in the 2nd post of this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=350081) are being used. In such cases, confirmed passengers have the highest priority, then inconvenienced passengers, and then standbys.

N227UA Aug 10, 2005 1:34 am


Originally Posted by NeoOfTheCRS
I found out today that using a Mileage Upgrade Award (15,000 miles on a full fare Y transpacfic flight) put me on the PB and NOT the PA list :mad: What gives?? :confused: Agent told me that if I was using a SWU, I'd be on the PA list. This even being 1K.

When did this change? Or has it always been this way?



Call again to contact another agent. Giving PA or PB depends on the discretion of the agent who gets your call.

N227UA Aug 10, 2005 5:02 am


Originally Posted by qasr
Wailist would be the obvious answer...



I thought HL is the segment status code of waitlist. Maybe Apollo is a bit different from Galileo?

tods27 Aug 10, 2005 8:24 am


Originally Posted by goplaces
In Denver a few weeks ago, a GA used the terms "Priority A" and "Priority B", which makes me think they aren't all dumped together when it goes to airport control.

The situation: there was a 2:00 PM flight that was significantly delayed, and many passengers needed to be accomodated on the flight in question, around an 8:00 PM departure. There were also passengers with confirmed reservations on a 9:00 departure, who were standing by for the 8:00. The gate agent made an announcement that anyone with a confirmed reservation for 9:00 would not clear the waitlist, because the inconvenienced passengers would be Priority A and clear before the passengers who were just trying to go standby (they would be Priority B). So United must have some sort of parallel DM lists, or at least a way of giving inconvenienced passengers some priority.

Standby for a flight and upgrade lists are two different things. PA and PB waitlists are for upgrades and move to the DM list for upgrades, not the standby list for getting on the flight.

goalie Aug 10, 2005 10:59 am


Originally Posted by tods27
Standby for a flight and upgrade lists are two different things. PA and PB waitlists are for upgrades and move to the DM list for upgrades, not the standby list for getting on the flight.

not sure about that or did i get a favor done......

checked in at home (fri am) for sfo-las (sat 10:45am) and decied to swing by sfo the night before on my way to my hockey game to see if could get put on the stdby list for the 8:30am flight (goalie g/f already in las-long story.... ;) )

got put on the stdby list with no problems and when i checked in at the gate, i went up to the g/a to confirm that i was on stby and she said yes but i was on the wrong stdby list-"as a 1k i s/b on the higher priority one" (her words). so, a few clicks later she said, "look at that, from #20 to # 1" and it was another tootsie pop for her and i made the flight w/no problems.

someotherguy Aug 10, 2005 11:48 am

As I understand it, the DM standby codes are things like BP5A and are different to the PA and PB pre-DM upgrade lists (and to the DM upgrade list). The GA may have moved you from BP5B to BP5A or similar.

goalie Aug 10, 2005 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by someotherguy
As I understand it, the DM standby codes are things like BP5A and are different to the PA and PB pre-DM upgrade lists (and to the DM upgrade list). The GA may have moved you from BP5B to BP5A or similar.

duh, sorry, the brain froze. you're right i was moved from bp5b to bp5a. that's two for me this week and the way things are going, i'll get my hat trick by the end of the day......

NeoOfTheCRS Aug 31, 2005 11:33 pm

Res Agent Viewing the PA list in advance
 
From time to time, I'll get a reservation agent who will look at the PA upgrade list in advance but ONLY for international flights.

When and if they look at the list I have received three stories saying the following

1.) "Sir, I cannot access the PA list"

2.) "We can see who is on the list, but we have no idea what priority number you are on the list because it is just sorted alphabetically"

3.) "Sir, I see that you are a 1K and using a SWU to upgrade but there is one Premier Executive ahead of you because they waitlisted on the PA list first"

Which is the case? Or is there another answer?? I have had some international agents swear on a stack of bibles they CANNOT access the PA list at all. Others say they can see it, but have no idea what priority I have because it is alphabetical by last name Others who say it is sorted only by time added to the list??
Help! :confused: :confused:


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