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BULLDOG777 Apr 13, 2004 6:46 am

Going To SIN
 
I am going to Sin from Gua, I have the option of going the same day connection with SQ or staying a night in LAX and going with UAL the next day. My only worry is that with SQ i will not get my double bounus that my 1P status gives me with UAL metal or is service difference from SQ to UAL enough to make up the difference to missing those miles. Plane confort service etc. What is you opinion

boomerang-boy Apr 13, 2004 6:50 am

Go for the bonus miles
 
This trip is too far to ignore the double bonus miles. Go with UA.

UA_Flyer Apr 13, 2004 7:21 am

If you are traveling in Y, then the deciding factor will be SQ's interactive IFE and food/service vs. UA's E+ seating and double miles. If you are in C or F, then I will just stick with UA for the double miles.

I just did an Asian trip on both UA and SQ in Y. I usually cannot sleep in the plane, so I thoroughly enjoyed the wide-selection of personal interactive video and game on SQ, and my flight seemed short on SQ.

On UA, I hate the more than a decade old IFE on the 747, but the E+ did make quite a difference. Food and service were average compare to SQ.

BULLDOG777 Apr 13, 2004 7:30 am

Going In Y
 
I am traveling in Y all the segments. I have never flown the UAL 747 because i go to Europe and they dont fly there that much i usually fly the 777. Is the IFE in the 747 that bad. Also the SQ segments fom LAX to SIN will be in the 345. How is the 747 expirience is it like flying with LH 747 boring.

corwinsl Apr 13, 2004 7:31 am

~22,000 miles (GUA/LAX, LAX/NRT, NRT/SIN) r/t is almost MP status. Only a few of these trips in a year would make you a 1K. And besides the miles, you'd be in line for SWUs for the following year. Yes it's a little on the ambitious side if you don't travel much and if this trip is an anomoly. But if it isn't, a future flight in UA/C will always beat the pants off of SQ/Y--no matter how good the food, service, or IFE is.

pb9997 Apr 13, 2004 8:32 am

Yes, it's a pity that UA 747 don't have personal TVs, comparing with SQ.

Just to make your choice harder, if you fly 22,000 miles on UA metal, you'll get 8 e-500 mile upgrades on your account... otherwise, zippo - provided you're already Premier.

BULLDOG777 Apr 13, 2004 8:35 am

Corwins
 
Even if fly with SQ i still get status miles. The only problem that i see that with UAL i get double miles to travel and SQ i dont. I have 62000 Premier miles this year. Would fly SQ over UAL for confort.

carbonchaser Apr 13, 2004 9:16 am

double miles issue
 
Well, if you join (or are already part of) Krisflyer, you get double miles on SQ 19-20 through June, to recollection. Doesn't help your UA status, but gives the same number of Star-usable miles.

Basically, the 345 is quantum leap in long distance airplane travel. Seat comfort, space between seats, IFE and the convenience of a nonstop are well well beyond UA, even in E+. I slept about 7 hours each way, which simply doesn;t happen in eeconomy (for me). The other SQ flighte are nice enough, but the only major upside is the IFE (which certainly helps)

Now if you can upgrade the UA ticket somehow . . .

UA_Flyer Apr 13, 2004 9:18 am


Originally Posted by BULLDOG777
I am traveling in Y all the segments. I have never flown the UAL 747 because i go to Europe and they dont fly there that much i usually fly the 777. Is the IFE in the 747 that bad. Also the SQ segments fom LAX to SIN will be in the 345. How is the 747 expirience is it like flying with LH 747 boring.

If you are flying the 345, then the new Executive Economy Class beats UA's E+:

http://www.airlinequality.com/Product/SIA-Ex-Y.htm

Are you close to being a MM? If you are, then pick UA over comfort. I have flown other *A partners since the formation of the alliance. Now, looking back, there are more than 200,000 miles that I could have used to achieve my MM status on UA. Get your life time status first, then fly anyone you prefer after that.

uastarflyer Apr 13, 2004 9:24 am


Originally Posted by BULLDOG777
Even if fly with SQ i still get status miles. The only problem that i see that with UAL i get double miles to travel and SQ i dont. I have 62000 Premier miles this year. Would fly SQ over UAL for confort.

Double miles is huge. E+ is also very much not to be underestimated in terms of value.

The IFE is dated (movie screen) but the movies themselves tend to be decent.

schoflyer Apr 13, 2004 12:13 pm

As a 1P you shoul be able to pre-assign an exit row, right?

Also did you say that you already had 62,000 EQM this year. Wouldn't this 22,000 put you in easy reach of 1K and all those SWU's?

Cheers,

Scho

uastarflyer Apr 13, 2004 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by schoflyer
As a 1P you shoul be able to pre-assign an exit row, right?

Also did you say that you already had 62,000 EQM this year. Wouldn't this 22,000 put you in easy reach of 1K and all those SWU's?

Cheers,

Scho

I was going to say this, but now I don't think it's an issue.

The 22k count the same whether flown on UA or SQ towards 1K status (100k miles). what is lost by flying SQ are 8 500milers and the double miles.

And "royal pacific service" on UA. ;)

BULLDOG777 Apr 13, 2004 3:32 pm

I have read all your input on my dilema. The bottom line is what? The only benefit that i have UAL is the doble miles and the e-upgrades. The SQ is the confort of the flight. What you do fellow frecuentflyer? Benefits and confort

CkCrunch Apr 13, 2004 3:41 pm

E+ is better than SQ's Y though (in terms of seats). Assuming you sleep, the PTVs don't really add much. And, if you sleep, the service is not that important either.

transpac Apr 13, 2004 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by BULLDOG777
I have read all your input on my dilema. The bottom line is what? The only benefit that i have UAL is the doble miles and the e-upgrades. The SQ is the confort of the flight. What you do fellow frecuentflyer? Benefits and confort

The only other consideration is that the SQ flight is of course a non-stop flight, while the UA flights require a connection at NRT. Unless I needed the extra miles, or wanted to spend the night in LA, or was trying to upgrade and the price was the same, I'd probably opt for the SQ flight just to see what it is like being on a plane for 18 hours. ;)

Chapel Hill Guy Apr 13, 2004 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by transpac
...I'd probably opt for the SQ flight just to see what it is like being on a plane for 18 hours. ;)

Yikes! 18 hours in Y?!?

I had a seatmate in C HKG-ORD in mid-March who said he took the LAX-SIN on SQ on the 345. I asked him how the flight was and he replied, "Horrible." He said the 18 hours was a bear (he was a 1K who clearly has done a LOT of traveling). He mentioned Raffles Class, but can't recall where he sat on the flight.

BULLDOG777 Apr 13, 2004 4:04 pm

Thanks
 
Thas my idea too about being in a plane for 18 hours no problem. i use to fly in the 1980's to MAD from GUA it took like 22 Hours in the same plane with 2 stops. Thank god for Tylenol PM.

kevino Apr 13, 2004 5:39 pm

I don't think I could personally take 18 hours on a plane. However, given the choice, I would generally prefer to fly SQ rather than UA (even with the double miles).

carbonchaser Apr 13, 2004 5:53 pm

Not on the 345
 

Originally Posted by CkCrunch
E+ is better than SQ's Y though (in terms of seats). Assuming you sleep, the PTVs don't really add much. And, if you sleep, the service is not that important either.

Hate to sound like a broken record, but that just simply isn't true on SQ 19-20. The Executive Economy on the 345 gives much more legroom than E+, real leg elevation, significantly more recline and a much wider seat (2-3-2 on a Airbus 340 which is 8 or (to recollection) even 9 across in coach on other airlines). Also, in case you like to work on these flights, there is power in every seat (direct plug-in - no adapter needed). And the IFE is endless and flawless - not four repeating movies, several hundred choices of what to watch or listen to, all on demand (18 hours IS a long time, no doubt about it). Plus, having only 117 coach seats on the entire plane is - if nothing else - kinda cool

And Singapore Girls. Not to be underestimated.

Make no mistake - I am a United fan and have been 1K six out of the last 7 years (and heading to Amsterdam/London with them on Monday) and wish they provided something remotely close in quality. But if upgrades are tight and I am going to singapore or beyond, this is the way to go, especially from LAX

BULLDOG777 Apr 13, 2004 6:15 pm

Thank you all
 
Problem solved my wife booked her reward travel with MP GUA-BKK and the route they gave her was GUA-LAX-SIN-BKK-SIN-LAX-GUA The traspacific flights where give in SQ 19 and 20. So i will be going with the non-stop in SQ with my wife. I love also UAL i will love to enjoy the 345 for my self. To europe i allways fly with there E+ is great.

SNA1K Apr 14, 2004 4:46 am


Originally Posted by CkCrunch
E+ is better than SQ's Y though (in terms of seats). Assuming you sleep, the PTVs don't really add much. And, if you sleep, the service is not that important either.

We were talking about SQ Ex Y on the 345 though--which is far better than UA E+ with a much better seat. Thereby you would get more and better sleep as well as have better service at the same time.


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