From what I read here, I now expect the NZ fligth to similar to LX business which I just had the pleasure of flying SFO-ZRH. Yes, UA's first seat is bigger, and screen is better, etc., but UA SFO-SYD can have some serious burned out staff, that can often make it a grumpy experience.
Since I will do one airline each way, I'll report back. My main drawback on NZ is the connection - sometimes just nice to get on the plane, and get off at your final destination. But UA arrives so early in the morning, not much to do anyway...... |
NZ All the way!
If you enjoy the experience of flying, then you should definitely do NZ in Business.
The UA crew to Sydney is the most senior and THE MOST burned out! I upgraded the the fare mistake to AKL via SYD to UA First a couple years ago and I was extremely disappointed. The FA's are mean! The NZ FA's are funny, professional, and attentive. UA's International F experience doesn't touch any other airlines F that I have tried (Thai, Oz, LH, SQ, Emirates - all on awards) IMHO |
Originally Posted by Jorgen
(Post 17017126)
I've only walked through, and never sat in, the cabin, but I'd say that NZ business is definitely comparable to United First. And the food and service should be excellent.
NZ food is nothing special - not bad, not great. If going to New Zealand, by all means take NZ. But if going to SYD and F is available, it makes no sense to take a detour through AKL to get an inferior product. |
Originally Posted by 1kBill
(Post 17020152)
There simply is no comparison between UA F seat and NZ business seat. I've been in both and the NZ seat compares very unfavorably to UA F. I find it to be a lousy seat since its recline is limited. To convert it into a bed, you have to get up out of the seat and flip it over.
NZ food is nothing special - not bad, not great. If going to New Zealand, by all means take NZ. But if going to SYD and F is available, it makes no sense to take a detour through AKL to get an inferior product. You sound like you're talking about SQ, you don't have to get up to change the NZ seat into a bed, unless I missed something. :confused: |
This is getting interesting! Thanks everybody.
I'm on a waitlist for the UA flight for the date I need, so I might not even get the choice. |
Originally Posted by 1k-all-the-way
(Post 17020206)
This is getting interesting! Thanks everybody.
I'm on a waitlist for the UA flight for the date I need, so I might not even get the choice. I admit I am partial to great airlines like NZ that take their service and reliability of their aircraft very seriously (and I actually don't mind the connection in AKL with its excellent lounge and nice selection of wines and manuka honey at the duty free). |
Originally Posted by dinoscool3
(Post 17020174)
You sound like you're talking about SQ, you don't have to get up to change the NZ seat into a bed, unless I missed something. :confused:
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Originally Posted by 1k-all-the-way
(Post 17018801)
Thanks - I'm on a 67 from AUK to SYD with business class. Maybe that's a new addition?
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=Syd-auk |
Originally Posted by Vunder31
(Post 17020831)
Sounds like an interesting route :D
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=Syd-auk |
I've done both. UA F is a slightly bigger seat, but you do have more "space" of your own outside the actual seat itself. To me, the NZ seat is far far more comfortable even though it's a little smaller.
Service is completely in favor of NZ. It's exceptional service, good food, great wine, pleasant, etc. On UA's very best day their service is merely "equal" to what I get on NZ every time. |
Originally Posted by Jorgen
(Post 17019319)
Ah, it seems to be a function of the day of the week you fly. Possibly A320s on weekdays and 767s on weekends. If it's a 767 then I retract my primary objection. Biz on the 767 isn't as snazzy as Biz-Prem on the long-haul, but it shouldn't be uncomfortable.
Business Class on the 767 is not BP but sure beats Y. |
Originally Posted by dinoscool3
(Post 17020174)
You sound like you're talking about SQ, you don't have to get up to change the NZ seat into a bed, unless I missed something. :confused:
Having recently flown a bunch of NZ and VS as well as UA F, I can't imagine a universe in which the NZ hard product is better. The VS/NZ seat was awesome in 2004, but now is a tatty relic. Staff were generally good/friendly. -G |
While many previous posters are citing having to get up to flip the seat as a disadvantage, I actually much prefer this design, as it results in a single, solid, flat bed to lay on rather than a bunch of seat sections with cracks that your body can wedge into. That said, UA's new F seats aren't anything to avoid anymore. And I'd take NZ C over UA F soft product any day of the week.
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The seats on NZ's new 773's are not (yet) tatty...;)
..and the addition of the new mattress pad has turned a decent C bed into a very good one indeed... (at least IMO) |
There are 777s' that head down to SYD as well- just few and far between.
Yes, I'd agree in going for NZ on this route over UA. |
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