4 April - UA497 (MSY-SFO) Makes Emergency Landing at MSY due to Smoke in Cockpit
Apr 4, 2011, 1:26 pm
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Apr 4, 2011, 1:30 pm
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Kudos to the pilots, FAs, and air traffic controllers who helped bring the bird back safely.
Apr 4, 2011, 2:16 pm
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Being that these people are displaced for awhile and plane is able to be boarded safely (which, but the correct personel I think this is the case) what are the chances people got their carryon's back. Personally, if I was displaced for most of the day, I'd want, no, need my laptop to work. Any thoughts or experiences?
Apr 4, 2011, 2:31 pm
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This does pose an honest question from me...
Being that these people are displaced for awhile and plane is able to be boarded safely (which, but the correct personel I think this is the case) what are the chances people got their carryon's back. Personally, if I was displaced for most of the day, I'd want, no, need my laptop to work. Any thoughts or experiences?
Being that these people are displaced for awhile and plane is able to be boarded safely (which, but the correct personel I think this is the case) what are the chances people got their carryon's back. Personally, if I was displaced for most of the day, I'd want, no, need my laptop to work. Any thoughts or experiences?
That said, these folks are very lucky to be alive. If it was me, I'd be taking the day off and counting my lucky stars.
Apr 4, 2011, 2:41 pm
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Man, hearing the alarms going off in the cockpit over the radio is freaking scary. ^ to getting that bird down in one piece.
Tower vectoring the plane down is
Tower vectoring the plane down is
Apr 4, 2011, 3:01 pm
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Fully agree. Always in the back of my mind. I have started to fly UA now out of MSP and always think we have the best on the flight deck.
Apr 4, 2011, 3:10 pm
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^ to the crew. If most of the instruments died, it could prove to be a "US1549" moment.
Trying to find info, one source says its a 319, others say 320.
Only pics I can see are only of the nose... and I can't quite make out the "ship" number..... looks like maybe 4708? IIRC, that would translate to N470UA?
Trying to find info, one source says its a 319, others say 320.
Only pics I can see are only of the nose... and I can't quite make out the "ship" number..... looks like maybe 4708? IIRC, that would translate to N470UA?
Apr 4, 2011, 4:00 pm
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I suspect that they only lost the EFIS displays.
Apr 4, 2011, 10:52 pm
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United emergency landing on 4/4/2011
Don't see a thread discussing this event. Anyone from the flight around here?
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/united-...ry?id=13295085
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/united-...ry?id=13295085
Apr 4, 2011, 10:58 pm
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Glad that the pilot made a very successful emergency landing and nobody was hurt.
Apr 5, 2011, 1:18 am
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Why were none of the 4 overwing exits used? This seems like it'd be standard procedure for someone sitting in one of the exit rows overwing in this type of evacuation
Apr 5, 2011, 8:01 am
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One of our FA or pilot members will better answer your question but if you listen to the announcements use of the over wing exits is often prefaced by "only if instructed by a uniformed crew member". My understanding is that exiting through them is more dangerous and tends to result in more injuries than through the main door slides. In this situation with no detectable fire, it might have been considered prudent to begin evac using main doors only.
Of more concern is that it looks like the slide at 1R did not deploy? Is that correct? Any theories?
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One of our FA or pilot members will better answer your question but if you listen to the announcements use of the over wing exits is often prefaced by "only if instructed by a uniformed crew member". My understanding is that exiting through them is more dangerous and tends to result in more injuries than through the main door slides. In this situation with no detectable fire, it might have been considered prudent to begin evac using main doors only.
Of more concern is that it looks like the slide at 1R did not deploy? Is that correct? Any theories?
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Apr 5, 2011, 8:51 am
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listen to the announcements use of the over wing exits is often prefaced by "only if instructed by a uniformed crew member". My understanding is that exiting through them is more dangerous and tends to result in more injuries than through the main door slides. In this situation with no detectable fire, it might have been considered prudent to begin evac using main doors only.
However, as a passenger who spends a lot of time in exit-row window seats, I find the question very interesting. Regardless of crew member instructions, would I choose to wait in line behind half a planeload of passengers exiting forward or aft, or get out quicker using the more accessible (to me) window exit? With no discernable fire or delay in deplaning, I hope I would follow instructions. But a hint of smoke or a slow queue down the aisle (or moron passengers trying to get their rollaboard out of the overhead) might change my mind real quick.
I also get the impression the FAs did not have time to do the "standard" pre-emergency landing briefings and that they didn't really say much more than "leave everything, get out" after landing. So it's interesting that in the absence of instructions, no passengers chose to pop the wing exits. That could be 1) passengers obeying FA instructions (good), 2) exit-row passengers who weren't actually willing/able to assist and chose inaction (bad), or 3) exit-row passengers who were willing/able to assist but made the choice (as an exit-row passenger is to supposed to in the absence of FA instructions) that exiting over the wing didn't look particularly safe (good).
Apr 5, 2011, 9:28 am
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Given the nose-down pitch of the aircraft, it seems prudent to my untrained eye that they would evacuate from 1L/1R only if there wasn't a huge hurry. The height of the rear slides was much higher, and passengers could have easily lost their footing on the wing or gotten tangled in the behind-the-wing slides which would have deployed "up hill."
However, as a passenger who spends a lot of time in exit-row window seats, I find the question very interesting. Regardless of crew member instructions, would I choose to wait in line behind half a planeload of passengers exiting forward or aft, or get out quicker using the more accessible (to me) window exit? With no discernable fire or delay in deplaning, I hope I would follow instructions. But a hint of smoke or a slow queue down the aisle (or moron passengers trying to get their rollaboard out of the overhead) might change my mind real quick.
I also get the impression the FAs did not have time to do the "standard" pre-emergency landing briefings and that they didn't really say much more than "leave everything, get out" after landing. So it's interesting that in the absence of instructions, no passengers chose to pop the wing exits. That could be 1) passengers obeying FA instructions (good), 2) exit-row passengers who weren't actually willing/able to assist and chose inaction (bad), or 3) exit-row passengers who were willing/able to assist but made the choice (as an exit-row passenger is to supposed to in the absence of FA instructions) that exiting over the wing didn't look particularly safe (good).
However, as a passenger who spends a lot of time in exit-row window seats, I find the question very interesting. Regardless of crew member instructions, would I choose to wait in line behind half a planeload of passengers exiting forward or aft, or get out quicker using the more accessible (to me) window exit? With no discernable fire or delay in deplaning, I hope I would follow instructions. But a hint of smoke or a slow queue down the aisle (or moron passengers trying to get their rollaboard out of the overhead) might change my mind real quick.
I also get the impression the FAs did not have time to do the "standard" pre-emergency landing briefings and that they didn't really say much more than "leave everything, get out" after landing. So it's interesting that in the absence of instructions, no passengers chose to pop the wing exits. That could be 1) passengers obeying FA instructions (good), 2) exit-row passengers who weren't actually willing/able to assist and chose inaction (bad), or 3) exit-row passengers who were willing/able to assist but made the choice (as an exit-row passenger is to supposed to in the absence of FA instructions) that exiting over the wing didn't look particularly safe (good).
From the discussion on this page:
I was an emergency row passenger on UA flight 497, April 4, 2011. An announcement about the movie ended abruptly, and the next instructions we received was without the PA system. One attendant was yelling for us to, "get off the plane, leave everything and get off the plane!". This was the first "real" emergency evaluation for this crew, and passengers, however I know I was not supposed to open that emergency exit door unless the flight attendant needed assistance, obviously she did not. Not following instructions in an emergency situation can cause more injuries.