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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:16 pm
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Why does it take an extra hour to return from the east coast?

In looking at summertime flight schedules for nonstop flights on UAL between San Francisco (SFO) and Newark, NJ (EWR), the SFO to EWR flights take about 5 hours, 30 minutes, but the return flights from EWR to SFO take about 6 hours, 30 minutes. Anyone know why the east ---> west flights take an extra hour?
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:18 pm
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(1) headwinds
(2) extra taxi time at EWR
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:19 pm
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To account for potential headwinds and to seriously pad times in order to be 'on time'.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:20 pm
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mostly it's
Originally Posted by bwicoplat
(1) headwinds
as the jetstream runs from west to east....
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:39 pm
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Thanks for the feedback folks, much appreciated.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:42 pm
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Mostly its the headwinds. The schedules are padded in both directions to try to compensate for chronic delays at all the NY airports.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:45 pm
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I did an LAX-IAD n/s awhile back...4 hrs there and 6 hrs back due to winds

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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:48 pm
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My PS flights this month we had 110 kt tailwind on the way to New York, which in turn made for a long trip home from New York.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by jacknyoc
I did an LAX-IAD n/s awhile back...4 hrs there and 6 hrs back due to winds
And it can happen in the reverse, too. I flew BOS-SFO 2 years ago and we arrived 58 minutes early (and a good thing I wasn't arriving at ORD 58 minutes early as this goalie would have had his first experience in a penalty box <pun intended> )
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 9:20 pm
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I remember a few years ago when there were recording breaking west-east winds and flights were arriving from the west in record time, but many flights going west had to stop for refueling.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by goalie
And it can happen in the reverse, too. I flew BOS-SFO 2 years ago and we arrived 58 minutes early (and a good thing I wasn't arriving at ORD 58 minutes early as this goalie would have had his first experience in a penalty box <pun intended> )
Always allowing your teammates to serve time for you.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by goalie
And it can happen in the reverse, too. I flew BOS-SFO 2 years ago and we arrived 58 minutes early (and a good thing I wasn't arriving at ORD 58 minutes early as this goalie would have had his first experience in a penalty box <pun intended> )
When I did my p.s. trip in September, we had an hour-long delay from JFK, due to ATC.. Still landed 60 minutes early
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by tkc98110
mostly it's as the jetstream runs from west to east....
But, it's not just the headwinds that contribute. The tailwinds going the opposite direction serve to knock down flight time west to east. As such, you see the effect twice.
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 10:10 pm
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I used to fly a lot from BOS to LAX and JFK/EWR to LAX and could never remember which direction took longer. Then I came up with an easy way to recall it: "You always have to work harder for the nicer things in life. Hence it takes longer to get to California."
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Old Mar 23, 2011, 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by bwicoplat
(2) extra taxi time at EWR
Back when I used to fly in/out of EWR with some regularity, I can recall many times with 45 minute gate to take-off - in good weather! Similar in PHL - pull away from the gate on time and wind up #27 in line during the evening rush.
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