New Policy: Lights on for takeoff and landing?
#32
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If you're sleeping and the plane veers off the runway in an aborted takeoff, do you really want to be thrown around, wake up and look over at your window to see - oh, yeah, you wanted darkness for your tired eyes... so sorry you can't tell there's a fire on your side of the plane as you try to evac and the shade is stuck in the down position.
Stay awake, sit up and pay attention until the aircraft rotates, then lower your shade and pass out.
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Where were you sitting? Too bad I missed a visit.
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Yeah I've heard the explanation before in addition to that pilots cannot see the aircraft and thus rely on pax to notify the crew of any visible problems. but, nonetheless, its annoying.
When you're landing at 530 AM and the sun's coming up, that last 30 minutes of sleep during descent and taxing is much needed.
When you're landing at 530 AM and the sun's coming up, that last 30 minutes of sleep during descent and taxing is much needed.
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Sad to hear this may be the case based on earlier responses; I hope it isn't true. My last night flight was 12/5 and the lights were off for takeoff and landing. Personally, I am all for window shades being up during these critical phases of flight. It helps passengers see what it happening if an emergency occurs, allowing them to make the right evacuation decision. With the lights on, however, seeing out becomes much more difficult and reduces the chance that passengers will make good choices. It is already silly enough that we need to prepare for landing on the double chime, but keeping the lights on goes one step farther in the wrong direction....
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I heard it for the first time last night. And I've been on a few flights since this thread started.
Purser announced something like, "Per our new policy, The cabin lights must be dimmed during takeoff and landing, if you need additional light..."
This was a night flight, so it was dark out. I also think we need the window shades open during takeoff and landing, day or night. And at night, as cmhua777 stated, its much easier to see out with the lights off. Makes sense to me.
Purser announced something like, "Per our new policy, The cabin lights must be dimmed during takeoff and landing, if you need additional light..."
This was a night flight, so it was dark out. I also think we need the window shades open during takeoff and landing, day or night. And at night, as cmhua777 stated, its much easier to see out with the lights off. Makes sense to me.
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As an ex-FA, this is correct. And the reason to keep the shades open is to quickly be able to identify the location of fire, debris, etc. in the event of an emergency evacuation.
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I heard it for the first time last night. And I've been on a few flights since this thread started.
Purser announced something like, "Per our new policy, The cabin lights must be dimmed during takeoff and landing, if you need additional light..."
This was a night flight, so it was dark out. I also think we need the window shades open during takeoff and landing, day or night. And at night, as cmhua777 stated, its much easier to see out with the lights off. Makes sense to me.
Purser announced something like, "Per our new policy, The cabin lights must be dimmed during takeoff and landing, if you need additional light..."
This was a night flight, so it was dark out. I also think we need the window shades open during takeoff and landing, day or night. And at night, as cmhua777 stated, its much easier to see out with the lights off. Makes sense to me.
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I'm always a little uncomfortable on takeoff and landing when not in the window seat and my seatmate doesn't open the shade.
Grew up having my 60s era flight attendant mom drill into me the safety importance of having the shade open during those periods. Having had a few flights where the FO came back (yes, in the old days when they could actually leave the cockpit) to check out a potential issue, it reinforced the reason for the policy.
I, for one, applaud the return to that standard. Even though I'm one who can sleep gate to gate and hate the early morning sun, I'd rather that than an unseen fire on the wing.
Grew up having my 60s era flight attendant mom drill into me the safety importance of having the shade open during those periods. Having had a few flights where the FO came back (yes, in the old days when they could actually leave the cockpit) to check out a potential issue, it reinforced the reason for the policy.
I, for one, applaud the return to that standard. Even though I'm one who can sleep gate to gate and hate the early morning sun, I'd rather that than an unseen fire on the wing.
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Originally Posted by emanon256
I heard it for the first time last night. And I've been on a few flights since this thread started.
Purser announced something like, "Per our new policy, The cabin lights must be dimmed during takeoff and landing, if you need additional light..."
Purser announced something like, "Per our new policy, The cabin lights must be dimmed during takeoff and landing, if you need additional light..."
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On a UX flight from LAS to LAX on 12/11 -- lights out after the safety briefing -- back on when parked at gate.