2011 Mileage Plus and OnePass elite program developments

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Nov 16, 2010, 8:49 am

#46

hoohoo

Join Date: Nov 2010

Programs: UA 1k

Posts: 7

bye bye UA

Lurker, but I had to open an account to post my disappointment.
I make 1k each year by 100eqs, but I'm always between 100 and 120. Without assurance of DEQS 2011 I'm going elsewhere. I feel like I fly a lot... 100 segments is a lot of time in and out of airports, and a big cost, and I deserve 1k status. I've been very loyal to UA until now, 90%+ of my flights are UA
What airlines / programs should I look into for 2011?

Nov 16, 2010, 8:49 am

#47

clublounger

Join Date: Oct 2000

Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Ambassador/Lifetime Titanium, Accor Silver, Club Carlson Gold, BW Diamond

Posts: 2,432

There is at least ONE positive aspect, in my view.

Qualification for 1K is remaining at 100,000 EQM's, rather than being dropped to CO's 75,000 for highest tier.

Aloha

Nov 16, 2010, 8:52 am

#48

TechnoPagan

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: PHL & (gasp) AVP (NEPA)

Programs: UA 1K

Posts: 787

Like every other 1K flyer I do not like the changes.

But rather than moan here we need a concerted effort to let our displeasure be known via United's "official" channels:

http://www.facebook.com/unitedairlines

http://twitter.com/unitedairlines

And of course 1KVoice...

Nov 16, 2010, 8:52 am

#49

Angeleno228

Join Date: Nov 2005

Location: LAX/BUR

Posts: 2,012

I was afraid prior to the announement that CR1s were on the chopping block, at least they still kept it. Judging by the amount of SWUs being traded or "sold" this past year, United probably took note of the abundance of upgrade instruments not being used for the intended purpose. So 1Ks, it looks like you are now being kinda forced to use SWUs as CR1s.

Nov 16, 2010, 8:52 am

#50

DJZ

Join Date: Oct 2005

Location: LA

Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold, Marriott Silver, former UA 1K, SPG AMEX addict

Posts: 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by as219

AA is starting to look a lot better for NYC-based folks:

* now the upgrades are the same at the 100K EQM level: 8 eVIPs = 2 CR-1s + 6 SWUs
* but EXP gets UDU on ex-JFK transcons...so you don't have to burn eVIPs
* 100 EQS to qualify vs. now 120 EQS on UACO

I'm starting to think I can live with the wedgie seats...

This is definitely what I'm looking at. And here I was annoyed that a job change might force me to go dAArk--now I'm looking forward to the opportunity. Additionally, the eVIPs are a lot more flexible than SWUs for international flights as they work for all fare classes. Smooth one, UA/CO...
(also, I imagine some california flyers are going to be displeased that their confirmed Hawaii upgrades are going to be harder to come by without a co-pay or burning SWUs...)

Also, yeah, way to send out an email first United...

Last edited by DJZ; Nov 16, 2010 at 8:55 am Reason: add'l comment

Nov 16, 2010, 8:53 am

#51

bmvaughn

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: Near SEA

Programs: UA MM, AS MVPG75K, Marriott Lifetime Gold

Posts: 7,969

Worst thing in all of this is the SWU being deposited when you hit 1K. So when you hit 100,000 EQM, you get 6 SWU and 2 CR-1s right then. I'd prefer the SWU to still post at the start of the year.

Nov 16, 2010, 8:53 am

#52

Sooks

Join Date: Jan 2003

Location: NY (Formerly SF)

Programs: UA GS/1K, SPG Platinum

Posts: 186

Even worse

As a 1K who flies pretty evenly throughout the year, I receive 2 CR1s per quarter now.

It looks like now we won't receive our next 'refresh' of regionals until we hit 75k next year -- so I will be 3 quarters without any addition CR1's. OUCH.

Nov 16, 2010, 8:53 am

#53

hobo13

Join Date: Jan 2005

Location: DEN

Programs: UA Gold-MM, AA Gold-MM, F9-Silver, Hyatt Something, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond

Posts: 6,392

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumpingenes

-no SWU use on fares below W

This would have been an easy bone to throw us. It would have shown good faith in combining the BEST of both programs. Instead, they gave 1K's the finger. Nice job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clublounger

There is at least ONE positive aspect, in my view.

Qualification for 1K is remaining at 100,000 EQM's, rather than being dropped to CO's 75,000 for highest tier.

Aloha

Or that it moved up to 125k a la Delta.

It's sad that we need to be excited about something just staying the same. I'm not saying I don't agree with you, but it's still pathetic.

Last edited by hobo13; Nov 16, 2010 at 9:08 am Reason: merge

Nov 16, 2010, 8:54 am

#54

LinBros

Join Date: Apr 2005

Location: Chicago

Programs: United 1K MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist

Posts: 725

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hmbrglar

I disagree with this...I might have 80EQS but only 45KEQM but you have 20EQS and 80K EQM why should you get the upgrade over me?

Wasn't commenting on the EQS vs EQM valuation. Just the fact that accruing 75K EQMs gives an additional benefit.

For those elites like you who are EQS heavy, perhaps the 1P+ enhanced UG priority should be awarded based on 90 EQS vs the 6 EQS needed for 1P.

Nov 16, 2010, 8:55 am

#55

travel.flier

Suspended

Join Date: Jan 2009

Programs: UA 1k

Posts: 1,208

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJZ

(also, I imagine some california flyers are going to be displeased that their confirmed Hawaii upgrades are going to be harder to come by without a co-pay or burning SWUs...)

i don't follow? how so? udu still applies? cr1's can still be used? hawaii flights from cali are so easy to upgrade i don't know why anyone would burn a swu. my 2p friends always clear those routes on udu

surprised there is less than 20 comments on UA facebook page.

Last edited by iluv2fly; Nov 16, 2010 at 9:10 am Reason: merge

Nov 16, 2010, 8:55 am

#56

expressboy

Join Date: Dec 2002

Location: ATL

Programs: UA:MM 1K HH:Diamond IHG:Plat Marriott:Plat

Posts: 652

I am looking at ending the year with 90K EQMs. With these rules it is unclear whether having 1K status will mean anything going forward

Nov 16, 2010, 8:55 am

#57

JLSocks

Join Date: Jun 2008

Location: Chicago

Programs: United GS MM, Hilton LT Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Ambassador

Posts: 229

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoohoo

If you're in a market where AA has a decent presence, I'd suggest taking a hard look at them. This recent change just made AA look more appealing to me as a 1K, and given that ORD is my home base, it would be awfully easy to switch all of my business and personal spend over to AA. Right now the only thing keeping me with UA is E+. If that goes away, all of my years of loyalty to UA is gone.

Nov 16, 2010, 8:55 am

#58

LilZeppelin

Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: New York, NY

Posts: 1,982

Since UDU, the value of CR-1s have gone down for me somewhat. But if I lived in NYC, they would be still very valuable. So perhaps the new UA is not that interested in NYC folks with the new change just announced.

I will see what other changes they introduce before making my mind to just drop my allegiance, but I recently flew WN and honestly I prefer to have internet even on a short flight rather than ability to sit in a wider seat and get cheap alcohol.

And no Mr Smisek, we don't like what we see so far

Nov 16, 2010, 8:57 am

#59

River in Sight

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: Washington DC

Programs: BA GLD, AA GLD 1MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott LT Titanium

Posts: 1,698

As someone who qualifies via EQS, this is extremely disappointing. I can do 100 EQS/yr, but 120/yr is just too much.

I need to figure out if I want to bother re-qualifying for 1K this year or if I should just forget the whole thing now. I think it is highly unlikely that I would bother to do 120 EQS next year.

Nov 16, 2010, 8:57 am

#60

bseller

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Mar 2002

Location: SPI

Programs: AA Gold, UA LT Plat, Mar LTT

Posts: 18,147

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwc

What about the CR-1's for being a million-miler?

There is no mention of them, but if I were a betting man, I'd say they're toast.

Dave