Feb 1 - One-Way Awards and Miles & Money Awards now bookable on ual.com
Jan 29, 2010, 2:55 pm
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I have no faith in united.com's capabilities.
When one-way awards were available to 1Ks it was a manual override process.
Jan 29, 2010, 2:58 pm
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Jan 29, 2010, 3:11 pm
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I am fine with this AS LONG AS it is only for United Metal - and the option to book traditional round trip awards, with stop overs remain an option. I do not like one way rules enforced on me (and neither should any other frequent flyer)
UNITED is making a serious mistake if this is a strategy to eliminate this benefit (the stopover)
Unless i wants to see itself loose 345 million in one quarter (like that other airline AA)
United please don't be AA. That would suck. Starnet blocking is bad enough.
are you crazy?
The way it works on Oneworld . Lets say you want to go from IAD to ATH in business class. lets say the award is 120000 (to get to europe) and 20000 intra europe.
It would cost you 60000 to get to LHR + 10000 to get to ATH. The award now costs 140,000 miles r/t.
There is a reason why oneworld has no partners and people are leaving in droves. They suck
One way awards is a back door strategy to claim more miles for the same flights. The only value is if you fly one way. That's it. Most of us have homes/family/people to return to .
UNITED is making a serious mistake if this is a strategy to eliminate this benefit (the stopover)
Unless i wants to see itself loose 345 million in one quarter (like that other airline AA)
United please don't be AA. That would suck. Starnet blocking is bad enough.
are you crazy?
The way it works on Oneworld . Lets say you want to go from IAD to ATH in business class. lets say the award is 120000 (to get to europe) and 20000 intra europe.
It would cost you 60000 to get to LHR + 10000 to get to ATH. The award now costs 140,000 miles r/t.
There is a reason why oneworld has no partners and people are leaving in droves. They suck
One way awards is a back door strategy to claim more miles for the same flights. The only value is if you fly one way. That's it. Most of us have homes/family/people to return to .
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Jan 29, 2010, 3:14 pm
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Jan 29, 2010, 3:41 pm
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You folks have lost your mind. Seriously.
That would eliminate free stopovers. Would you like to see that go?
Also - awards with connections, would cost, much, much more. Is this something you want?
This is a backdoor strategy to increase the mileage redemption requirements
That would eliminate free stopovers. Would you like to see that go?
Also - awards with connections, would cost, much, much more. Is this something you want?
This is a backdoor strategy to increase the mileage redemption requirements
Jan 29, 2010, 3:41 pm
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No it's not something I want. I also don't think that is likely. Even AA--which is the reason people fear losing the stopover with one way awards--does not charge extra for connections. I don't see that part changing.
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Jan 29, 2010, 3:45 pm
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One way awards kill the stopover.
That would suck
That would suck
Jan 29, 2010, 3:46 pm
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1/2 price might go, and it seems nice, but from an economical standpoint, UA SHOULD charge some premium for this. This makes so many "illegal ticketing" situations cost so much less, it takes the one way fare, which in itself has a very high premium cost in many markets, and it makes it so much cheaper, so much easier to use miles instead of big bucks. The revenue dilution from a purely "opportunity lost" case on revenue tickets that would have been sold at a premium makes the potential revenue hit to UA pretty hard. Sure, there may be more passengers that fly UA for this, but true lost revenue is easy to see and empiricize, but potential incremental revenue from passengers that don't fly UA and MIGHT switch is much tougher to prove.
With all due respect to the hypothetical potential $$$s to be lost or gained by UA if some arcane change is implemented:
I suggest respectfully to keep in mind that some solid U.S citizens fly domestic and foreign with other airlines than UA - when it is more conducive and expedient for them.
See below: # 36....:
You can get one record locator for a RT(2 o/w's) on AAwards.
My guess is that free stopovers go poof. While many don't like it, sources tell me most prefer o/w awards over the option of a free stopover. You should still be able to book a 'stopover', as long as it's less than 24hrs, right?
The system doesn't get more miles or $ from me, at least not to UA/AA. In the europe example, I'll just book some lcc to hop around the areas I want to go to. It's the premium cabin longhauls that I care about.
My guess is that free stopovers go poof. While many don't like it, sources tell me most prefer o/w awards over the option of a free stopover. You should still be able to book a 'stopover', as long as it's less than 24hrs, right?
The system doesn't get more miles or $ from me, at least not to UA/AA. In the europe example, I'll just book some lcc to hop around the areas I want to go to. It's the premium cabin longhauls that I care about.
In short the world does not revolve around UA.
Jan 29, 2010, 4:06 pm
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UA should not do this AA style. That would be horrible.
I think the BMI version is palatable.
I think the BMI version is palatable.
Jan 29, 2010, 4:22 pm
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lets hope UA does not follow AA on this topic 
Jan 29, 2010, 6:53 pm
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No bueno, I like having the stopover option, like AKL-SYD-SFO.
This is where we got skrewed by AA.
However, their Oneworld awards are still in tack (something that *A cannot compare with).
This is where we got skrewed by AA.
However, their Oneworld awards are still in tack (something that *A cannot compare with).
Jan 29, 2010, 7:01 pm
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and now i can even mix and match between AA & UA on a roundtrip, more power to me!
Jan 29, 2010, 7:03 pm
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As stated, it is definitely possible to have both one-way and stopovers. But if it came down to one, I would much rather have the one-way. I would find the flexibility of the double open-jaw well worth having to pay extra for a stopover.