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Need help to Interpret Fare Rule regarding changes
After reading this several times I am still confused regarding whether change of itinerary is allowed or not for an unused ticket but passed Departure Date. The language seems to say change is NOT allowed to the first segment? Or it only refers to the fare calculation since it mentions fare break?
The fare rules are for a refundable fare that is a ONE Segment ONE WAY A to B domestic itinerary. Hence the confusion I am having. Booking class is V. Fare code is VA0KY. Here is what the rules say : <<OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES NO CHARGE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES AND REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE A. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED B. ALL OTHERS USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS OF FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES/FROM PREVIOUS TKT ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY B. ALL OTHERS USE CURRENTLY TKTD FARE PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS UP TO THE FIRST CHANGED FARE COMPONENT 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 4. UA FARES ARE USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF CURRENT FARES/FROM PREVIOUS TKT ISSUE DATE IF HISTORICAL FARES TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. |
First, this part of the fare rules doesn't even apply to you. The section you posted talks about changes to the domestic part of an international ticket.
Second, I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, there is no such thing as a refundable V fare. |
Originally Posted by United737522
(Post 13256885)
I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, there is no such thing as a refundable V fare.
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Originally Posted by United737522
(Post 13256885)
Second, I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, there is no such thing as a refundable V fare.
There are lots of surcharges applied to specific dates. But on the penalty / change part of the rules, it says Unused Ticket is wholly refundable. http://matrix.itasoftware.com/cvg/di...1991&J=2&AAD=0 Penalties: NOTE - - TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS MADE. . 1. WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS - CHANGES TO ORIGINATING FLIGHT - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS ARE FULLY REFUNDABLE. CHANGES ARE PERMITTED AT ANYTIME. IF CHANGE IS MADE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/STOP- OVER POINT/BOOKING CODE OR CHANGE VIOLATES RULES OF ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE-TICKET MUST BE REPRICED AT CURRENT FARES APPLICABLE TO CHANGED ITINERARY. CHANGES MUST BE MADE AND TICKET REISSUED BY THE ADVANCE PURCHASE OF THE NEW FARE. A. IF NEW FARE IS HIGHER IN VALUE - COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE B. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER IN VALUE - THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE REFUNDED TO ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. 2. WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS - CHANGES TO OTHER THAN THE ORIGINATING FLIGHT WITH NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/STOPOVER POINTS - CHANGES TO OTHER THAN THE ORIGINATING FLIGHT MAY BE MADE ANYTIME WITHOUT REGARD TO THE ADVANCE PURCHASE REQUIREMENT PROVIDED CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER RULES OF THE TICKETED FARE AND ORIGINAL BOOKING CODE IS AVAILABLE. IF CHANGE IS MADE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/ STOPOVER POINT/BOOKING CODE OR CHANGE VIOLATES MIN/MAX REQUIREMENT OF ORIGINAL TICKETED FARE - TICKET MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES APPLICABLE TO CHANGED ITINERARY. CHANGES MUST BE MADE AND TICKET REISSUED BY THE ADVANCE PURCHASE OF THE NEW FARE. A. IF NEW FARE IS HIGHER IN VALUE - COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE. B. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER IN VALUE - THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE REFUNDED TO ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. |
100% certainty? There are definitely refundable V fares (though they're not likely offered all the time). I've most often seen them on short, one segment itineraries like SEA-PDX, but I also saw one once on SEA-SFO-SAN.
OP, I suggest you call reservations and ask what you can do with the remaining value on this ticket. That's really the best place to start and if they don't give you the answer you want then come back here, post all the details including the routes and we can tell you if we think the agent is correct or not. |
I've had a refundable/changable V fare as well. I didn't expect it.
It came up under economy lowest. Interestingly enough that was the return fare, and the outbound far was a non-refundable one (multi-city itinerary) |
Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 13259378)
Take a look of this V fare rules.
There are lots of surcharges applied to specific dates. But on the penalty / change part of the rules, it says Unused Ticket is wholly refundable. http://matrix.itasoftware.com/cvg/di...1991&J=2&AAD=0 |
Originally Posted by United737522
(Post 13259986)
Wow, I stand corrected! But I can now say, seeing the whole fare rules, that you can make changes once the date has passed.
I would play it safe and change the date to as far out as possible BEFORE the departure. This way would give me much needed time when a more solid travel plan can be made. |
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