Dec '09 UA Security Procedures-operational changes on INTERNATIONAL flights? [Merged]
Dec 29, 2009, 8:37 pm
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I think the ife ban won't last. also at least the IFE is not linked to seat controls unlike AA.
Dec 29, 2009, 8:39 pm
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I don't think that it is (yet) a FRA but a UA situation, nothing on the M+M forum nor the LH site; Fraport only 'requests' passengers to bring no carry on or things that they truly only need on the flight, in order to minimize wait times, on their site.
http://www.fraport.de/cms/press/dok/...hafen_fran.htm
http://www.fraport.de/cms/press/dok/...hafen_fran.htm
Dec 30, 2009, 9:19 am
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LHR - one bag?
I agree! I was disappointed to see that according to United's website, the one-bag rule is now in effect at FRA and Brussels as well.
Link:
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6867,53307,00.html
I'm also disappointed to note that despite the new rules limiting hand luggage, I've seen no mention of any plans to enhance protection of checked luggage.
Link:
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6867,53307,00.html
I'm also disappointed to note that despite the new rules limiting hand luggage, I've seen no mention of any plans to enhance protection of checked luggage.
Dec 30, 2009, 9:31 am
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You're right. LHR imposed a one-bag rule almost immediately after the incident on the AMS-DTW flight. FRA and Brussels waited a few days before adopting it. And Canada has been even more stringent for travel to the US. From United's website:
"For travel from Canada to the United States
Customers traveling from any Canadian destination to the United States should be advised that effective December 28, 2009, Transport Canada (a department of the Canadian government) put into place a ban on any carry-on baggage that customers would have access to during flight.
Items that are excluded from this restriction include:
small purses
cameras
coats
items for care of infants
laptop computers
diplomatic or consular bags
crutches
canes
walkers
containers carrying life-sustaining items
medications and medical devices
musical instruments
special-needs items"
"For travel from Canada to the United States
Customers traveling from any Canadian destination to the United States should be advised that effective December 28, 2009, Transport Canada (a department of the Canadian government) put into place a ban on any carry-on baggage that customers would have access to during flight.
Items that are excluded from this restriction include:
small purses
cameras
coats
items for care of infants
laptop computers
diplomatic or consular bags
crutches
canes
walkers
containers carrying life-sustaining items
medications and medical devices
musical instruments
special-needs items"
Dec 30, 2009, 10:15 am
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You're right. LHR imposed a one-bag rule almost immediately after the incident on the AMS-DTW flight. FRA and Brussels waited a few days before adopting it. And Canada has been even more stringent for travel to the US. From United's website:
"For travel from Canada to the United States
Customers traveling from any Canadian destination to the United States should be advised that effective December 28, 2009, Transport Canada (a department of the Canadian government) put into place a ban on any carry-on baggage that customers would have access to during flight.
Items that are excluded from this restriction include:
small purses
cameras
coats
items for care of infants
laptop computers
diplomatic or consular bags
crutches
canes
walkers
containers carrying life-sustaining items
medications and medical devices
musical instruments
special-needs items"
"For travel from Canada to the United States
Customers traveling from any Canadian destination to the United States should be advised that effective December 28, 2009, Transport Canada (a department of the Canadian government) put into place a ban on any carry-on baggage that customers would have access to during flight.
Items that are excluded from this restriction include:
small purses
cameras
coats
items for care of infants
laptop computers
diplomatic or consular bags
crutches
canes
walkers
containers carrying life-sustaining items
medications and medical devices
musical instruments
special-needs items"
Dec 30, 2009, 11:32 am
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Flying domestically the other day a FA busted out yet another new policy. Not sure if this has been in effect since before December, but my wife and I were sitting in the exit row and instructed to read the exit row credentials, which seemed normal enough. Then, the FA explained that he would come back and ask us about details mentioned on the brochure.
Half-way joking, I asked if it was policy to come back and ask about the brochure. A few minutes later the FA produced a printout dated Dec 09 with such instructions. I apologized for doubting.
Is this new? Is this what FA's have been instructed to do all along? The FA usually just explains the requirements and asks if we are capable. It felt kind of funny to be 'quizzed' by a FA.
Half-way joking, I asked if it was policy to come back and ask about the brochure. A few minutes later the FA produced a printout dated Dec 09 with such instructions. I apologized for doubting.
Is this new? Is this what FA's have been instructed to do all along? The FA usually just explains the requirements and asks if we are capable. It felt kind of funny to be 'quizzed' by a FA.
The FA will still assess that the pax in the exit row meet the customer selection criteria.
They will then ask you to review the exit row seating criteria on the safety card on the front and inside.
Then the FA will come back to you to ask you "Do you meet all the criteria and are you qualified, willing and able to perform all the functions on the safety card for the exit?"
If you meet the criteria and willing then you reply with an answer of YES done.
************************************************** ***********
On my last Int'l flt the map was on & there was no ban on the last hour of pax must be in their seats ( as long as the seat belt sign was off). Now boarding did take forever due to the hand search of each pax bags but that is under the airports control on when they start that process as our boarding time is still the same 1 hour before the flt.
Dec 30, 2009, 11:52 am
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As noted above, on the United page referenced, the one bag limitation is now imposed at Brussels, Amsterdam, and London -- not Frankfurt. Canada still has the 0+ carry-on bag limit.
Idiotic. Note that no Asian airport has chosen to join the silliness brigade.
Idiotic. Note that no Asian airport has chosen to join the silliness brigade.
Dec 30, 2009, 11:58 am
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Data point
Just got off 862, HKG-SFO. All pretty much back to normal - map was technically "on", but our distance/time remaining never changed (though it did show the altitude). Other IFE was fine. I was speaking with the captain pre-flight, joking about the map - he said even he was in the dark, hadn't gotten any official word yet.
20 min out from landing, PA request to "please stay in your seats the remainder of the flight". Sounded somewhat half-hearted, a few people still got up.
20 min out from landing, PA request to "please stay in your seats the remainder of the flight". Sounded somewhat half-hearted, a few people still got up.
Dec 30, 2009, 11:59 am
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Awesome. Is that part of the plan to make the security mechanisms unpredictable for would-be terrorists -- changing the rules for each airport once or twice a day?
Dec 30, 2009, 3:09 pm
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Any tips?
After months of debating whether to join the Flyertalk, I finally bit the bullet and registered today. Very much looking forward great discussions and tips.
So, I've been debating about a possible trip to ICN in Jan '10. Any idea as to how/if flights out of SFO to ICN (direct or via NRT) been affected (adversely) since the NWA incident a couple of days ago? I've read more than a few horror stories on various international/domestic flights since the incident but couldn't find any related to flights to ICN or NRT. Any tips and suggestions re. SFO-ICN route would be very much appreciated!
So, I've been debating about a possible trip to ICN in Jan '10. Any idea as to how/if flights out of SFO to ICN (direct or via NRT) been affected (adversely) since the NWA incident a couple of days ago? I've read more than a few horror stories on various international/domestic flights since the incident but couldn't find any related to flights to ICN or NRT. Any tips and suggestions re. SFO-ICN route would be very much appreciated!
Dec 30, 2009, 3:21 pm
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Welcome to FT Where2Go! ^ ^
I presume you have flipped through this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ts-merged.html
You might get more responses by posting there, as your current thread title is a tad vague.
I presume you have flipped through this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ts-merged.html
You might get more responses by posting there, as your current thread title is a tad vague.
Dec 30, 2009, 3:29 pm
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After months of debating whether to join the Flyertalk, I finally bit the bullet and registered today. Very much looking forward great discussions and tips.
So, I've been debating about a possible trip to ICN in Jan '10. Any idea as to how/if flights out of SFO to ICN (direct or via NRT) been affected (adversely) since the NWA incident a couple of days ago? I've read more than a few horror stories on various international/domestic flights since the incident but couldn't find any related to flights to ICN or NRT. Any tips and suggestions re. SFO-ICN route would be very much appreciated!
So, I've been debating about a possible trip to ICN in Jan '10. Any idea as to how/if flights out of SFO to ICN (direct or via NRT) been affected (adversely) since the NWA incident a couple of days ago? I've read more than a few horror stories on various international/domestic flights since the incident but couldn't find any related to flights to ICN or NRT. Any tips and suggestions re. SFO-ICN route would be very much appreciated!
I think you will find the FT community very helpful in your travel endeavours! The most recent update is that UA has resumed their IFE (in-flight entertainment) on inbound int'l flights, but with the mapping function and channel 9 disabled. Other TSA mandates include no blankets 1 hr. prior to arrival as well as instructions to be seated 1 hr. prior to arrival (crew discretion)
Are you a United Elite member? If so, there are some helpful tips on FT about seat selection in the E+ (Economy Plus) section of widebody aircraft that service the SFO-NRT-ICN market.
Dec 30, 2009, 4:07 pm
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I have posted my check-in experience with UA in Canada in the AC forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...edures-30.html
It was an annoying experience to say the least. All restrictions were also enforced during the flight.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...edures-30.html
It was an annoying experience to say the least. All restrictions were also enforced during the flight.
Dec 30, 2009, 4:12 pm
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Thank you, FortFun and globetraveler for the quick response....still learning my way through the flyertalk website.
Dec 30, 2009, 5:10 pm
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Really, I can't imagine any Asian country allowing itself to get caught up this way, overreacting to one wacko setting himself on fire. Asian countries hate to look ridiculous. The United States apparently doesn't mind at all, and Canada has seemingly entered a competition for most ridiculous country of all! Thank goodness I have no travel to Canada planned for the near future. I would cancel it for sure.
Bruce