Dec '09 UA Security Procedures-operational changes on INTERNATIONAL flights? [Merged]
#16
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I fear for the future of Ch 9 . Will the TSA nonsense ever stop?
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I've been on plenty of UA flights where the Air Show was broken but the rest of the IFE was fine. Can't they just break it?
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The man who did the crazy act obviously should not have been on the plane because his name was on a government “watch list.”
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If the airline employees were doing their jobs correctly, the terrorist would not have been issued a U.S. segment boarding pass when he checked in for his trip.
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If the airline employees were doing their jobs correctly, the terrorist would not have been issued a U.S. segment boarding pass when he checked in for his trip.
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Keeping this on topic, I guess I'll find out tomorrow whether my UA 777 from FRA to IAD will have IFE disabled. It won't matter as far as my entertainment is concerned as I have 30+ hrs of videos on my laptop and about 8 hrs of battery life, so I wasn't really planning on using the on-board IFE for anything than the map.
United's website now advises people to allow for extra time at check-in in and boarding due to extra security measures.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6867,53307,00.html
That's, of course, easier said than done with pre-arranged travel connections. We'll be arriving 2 hrs before departure at FRA, and thanks for united's crappy OLCI I am not able to check us in for the flight to the US.
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No IFE for domestic flights? Or only int'l flights? I'm unclear on that one.
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#24
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I'm hoping these rules get adjusted pretty quickly.
The 1 hour rule is tough, especially if you've had a lot to drink on a long int'l flight, that's gonna cause some interesting problems. Try telling a little kid they have to hold it for an hour or more. I give it a day or two before some stubborn person runs to the bathroom and causes some "security emergency".
Plus, United and all the airlines can't be too thrilled about having no IFE. It destroys demand for any premium cabin, and plus, no IFE=cranky passengers = never good.
The 1 hour rule is tough, especially if you've had a lot to drink on a long int'l flight, that's gonna cause some interesting problems. Try telling a little kid they have to hold it for an hour or more. I give it a day or two before some stubborn person runs to the bathroom and causes some "security emergency".
Plus, United and all the airlines can't be too thrilled about having no IFE. It destroys demand for any premium cabin, and plus, no IFE=cranky passengers = never good.
#25
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I'm pulling my upgrades for Monday...No way am I standing for this nonsense with no IFE, no power, no bleep,...all because some idiot employee in Yemen couldn't do their jobs?
Then again I'd just enjoy the food and the booze and pass out.
Then again I'd just enjoy the food and the booze and pass out.
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This is a freak incident that is unlikely to be repeated.
The IFE on United will likely be restored.
There is no evidence from other airlines such as cx, sq, qantas or other carriers that gps and onboard maps has contributed to suicide bombers. also, these so-called terroism acts that are reported widely appear to affect mostly US based carriers.
UA spent a significant amount to refurbish their premium cabins and it is meant to enable fair competition with other carriers. Inflight IFE is the norm of travel. If UA is asked to remove their IFE product permanently, they will likely suffer a further loss on profits and reduced revenue growth.
The IFE on United will likely be restored.
There is no evidence from other airlines such as cx, sq, qantas or other carriers that gps and onboard maps has contributed to suicide bombers. also, these so-called terroism acts that are reported widely appear to affect mostly US based carriers.
UA spent a significant amount to refurbish their premium cabins and it is meant to enable fair competition with other carriers. Inflight IFE is the norm of travel. If UA is asked to remove their IFE product permanently, they will likely suffer a further loss on profits and reduced revenue growth.
#27
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remove IFE and UNITED becomes SWA.....no need for business class seats other than if you REALLY need to sleep...ill go over the pond in economy all the time now, upgrades worthless....yeah i know im exagerating, but this just sucks!
I cant imagine my upcoming trip, almost 33 1/2 hours in a place without some sort of entertainment....my laptop only had so much battery
I cant imagine my upcoming trip, almost 33 1/2 hours in a place without some sort of entertainment....my laptop only had so much battery
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Has this actually been verified?
I am flying back to SFO from SYD on Wednesday and can report then, but I am positive that people will be flying internationally before then and can report any announcements/experiences related to the thread topic.
I am flying back to SFO from SYD on Wednesday and can report then, but I am positive that people will be flying internationally before then and can report any announcements/experiences related to the thread topic.
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Well I'm sitting on UA881 ORD-NRT and they told us bc of the incident yesterday no IFE, now I have nothing to do for 13 hours except drink... This is a joke, like we won't be able to have a general idea of where we are by looking out the window and knowing we have to cross an ocean to get to Europe or Asia... What a waste of 3 SWU I just used to upgrade my dad, brother and myself! Once I get to the hotel in tokyo I'm sending my email to 1kvoice. I asked about skykits or something but there was an onboard service supervisor on and he said united would reach out to us, let's see!
Well I'm sitting on UA881 ORD-NRT and they told us bc of the incident yesterday no IFE, now I have nothing to do for 13 hours except drink... This is a joke, like we won't be able to have a general idea of where we are by looking out the window and knowing we have to cross an ocean to get to Europe or Asia... What a waste of 3 SWU I just used to upgrade my dad, brother and myself! Once I get to the hotel in tokyo I'm sending my email to 1kvoice. I asked about skykits or something but there was an onboard service supervisor on and he said united would reach out to us, let's see!
#30
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Ridiculous
Is this IFE ban being dictated by the government or United? It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Who do I direct my ire?