Dec '09 UA Security Procedures-operational changes on INTERNATIONAL flights? [Merged]
Dec 28, 2009, 4:41 pm
#241
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Thanks for the clarification. A couple of more questions:
1. Are there any new restrictions on in-cabin electronics?
2. Will I still be able to bring on board one carry-on plus one personal item?
3. Has UA stopped applying these restrictions on out-bound flights from the U.S.?
Thanks!
I have not seen an answer to this poster's questions. Has an answer been given?
I am particularly interested in whether we will still be able to bring on board one carry-on plus one personal item.
Is there anything definitive from TSA or United?
Thanks in advance for a response.
Dec 28, 2009, 4:51 pm
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I have not seen an answer to this poster's questions. Has an answer been given?
I am particularly interested in whether we will still be able to bring on board one carry-on plus one personal item.
Is there anything definitive from TSA or United?
Thanks in advance for a response.
I have not seen an answer to this poster's questions. Has an answer been given?
I am particularly interested in whether we will still be able to bring on board one carry-on plus one personal item.
Is there anything definitive from TSA or United?
Thanks in advance for a response.
Dec 28, 2009, 5:27 pm
#244
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According to the British Press this morning,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-to-know.html
it is only BA, Virgin and Delta that are restricting pax to one carry-on only. UA seems to not doing that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-to-know.html
it is only BA, Virgin and Delta that are restricting pax to one carry-on only. UA seems to not doing that.
Dec 28, 2009, 6:33 pm
#245
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UA 903 MUC-IAD today 28-Dec-09:
Screening at gate like most MUC - US flights IME, but no hand/wand scanning or pat down. Normal liquid bags + baby formula in sealed bottles (and some other small liquids e.g. medicines) all ok. We had slimmed down to one carryon each but they weren't restricting people -- and several had bags of duty free liquor.
IFE was working but no map. No Channel 9. I asked the FA if there was going to be any 'last hour' lockdown but she said they had gotten updates in the morning (yes) and then later at the airport (no). Apart from some light chop the seat belt sign was off until about 25-30 mins prior to landing.
Generally good flight in C, decent service and food.
Arrival at IAD, typical endless march down a dingy, narrow corridor to the mobile lounge, where clearly healthy, strong, young people practically muscled aside a mom holding her toddler to be close to the door. Immigration was well-manned and quick and luggage took about 10 minutes after immigration.
One observation: winter west bound TATLs seem to take A LOT LONGER when there is no map and no announcement of flight time -- even when you know the schedule. (All subjective).
Screening at gate like most MUC - US flights IME, but no hand/wand scanning or pat down. Normal liquid bags + baby formula in sealed bottles (and some other small liquids e.g. medicines) all ok. We had slimmed down to one carryon each but they weren't restricting people -- and several had bags of duty free liquor.
IFE was working but no map. No Channel 9. I asked the FA if there was going to be any 'last hour' lockdown but she said they had gotten updates in the morning (yes) and then later at the airport (no). Apart from some light chop the seat belt sign was off until about 25-30 mins prior to landing.
Generally good flight in C, decent service and food.
Arrival at IAD, typical endless march down a dingy, narrow corridor to the mobile lounge, where clearly healthy, strong, young people practically muscled aside a mom holding her toddler to be close to the door. Immigration was well-manned and quick and luggage took about 10 minutes after immigration.
One observation: winter west bound TATLs seem to take A LOT LONGER when there is no map and no announcement of flight time -- even when you know the schedule. (All subjective).
Dec 28, 2009, 7:44 pm
#246
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Sitting in first on UA838 TPE-NRT no issues with security other than extra x-ray at gate and a look in the shoes. IFE appears to be operating onboard.
Dec 28, 2009, 7:46 pm
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Dec 28, 2009, 7:58 pm
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Air Canada ist restricting also heavily any carry on, but in my opinion not so much out of security issues but really also in order to get their flights out of Toronto e.g. as they have the most international US flights probably in the world... Air Canada is now restricting hand laggage to medicals devices, a laptop or purse etc. No more bags allowed or anything bulkier.
QUOTE=1P;13070126]According to the British Press this morning,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-to-know.html
it is only BA, Virgin and Delta that are restricting pax to one carry-on only. UA seems to not doing that.[/QUOTE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-to-know.html
it is only BA, Virgin and Delta that are restricting pax to one carry-on only. UA seems to not doing that.[/QUOTE
Air Canada ist restricting also heavily any carry on, but in my opinion not so much out of security issues but really also in order to get their flights out of Toronto e.g. as they have the most international US flights probably in the world... Air Canada is now restricting hand laggage to medicals devices, a laptop or purse etc. No more bags allowed or anything bulkier.
Dec 28, 2009, 8:15 pm
#249
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UA 955 today LHR-SFO the initial security etc was fine - went through fast track (in F) and no one in queue. Then wandered down to gate at about 1030 (meant to be departing at 1115) and found a massive queue for specific UA security at the gate. When I got there they were still processing the LAX flight. In all waited about 45 mins (despite F and C being called separately). Flight left about 90 mins late by the time everyone boarded. All bags were searched and everyone had a pat down but there didn't appear to be a one bag rule although most people only had one.
On board had normal IFE and seat belt sign came on about 10 mins early due to turbulence not security. Only differences were no channel 9 and no map. As previously stated it does seem to make the flight seem longer!!!!
On board had normal IFE and seat belt sign came on about 10 mins early due to turbulence not security. Only differences were no channel 9 and no map. As previously stated it does seem to make the flight seem longer!!!!
Dec 28, 2009, 8:44 pm
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"To comply with the current TSA security directive, Channel 9 is turned off on international flights inbound to the U.S."
Yet another IDIOTIC and pointless American knee jerk reaction.
WHAT does this have to do with a Nigerian allegedly carrying some kind of alleged explosive?
If Osama wants to ROTFLHAO for weeks, he'll con some idiot kid to secret something into the USA in a certain body cavity.
Don't the TSA realise how DUMB and totally pointless their foolish responses are to all these goofball attempts?
That is a rhetorical question.
Yet another IDIOTIC and pointless American knee jerk reaction.
WHAT does this have to do with a Nigerian allegedly carrying some kind of alleged explosive?
If Osama wants to ROTFLHAO for weeks, he'll con some idiot kid to secret something into the USA in a certain body cavity.
Don't the TSA realise how DUMB and totally pointless their foolish responses are to all these goofball attempts?
That is a rhetorical question.
Last edited by ozstamps; Dec 28, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Dec 28, 2009, 8:57 pm
#251
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-are they allowed to announce the flying time from an international port to a US destination prior to take-off?
-is the no map/channel 9 international to US a United decision? I've read that some carriers are using their maps on inbound US flights.
-do they allow map/channel 9 on flights from the US or did they have to turn the whole map system off? Just wondering if it can be disabled on the inbound flight?
-is the no map/channel 9 international to US a United decision? I've read that some carriers are using their maps on inbound US flights.
-do they allow map/channel 9 on flights from the US or did they have to turn the whole map system off? Just wondering if it can be disabled on the inbound flight?
Dec 28, 2009, 9:01 pm
#252
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And yes, I'm letting them know! ^
Dec 28, 2009, 9:11 pm
#253
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While, of course saftey is of upmost priority, we seriously need to tackle this issue with more brains than random reactions. It's good to know UA is ontop of everything.
Of course ch9 leaving the international sector is a real downer. I hope this is only temporary because, as the poster above me said, it's a fundemental reason why people fly UA.
Last edited by UAL4life; Dec 28, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Dec 28, 2009, 10:07 pm
#254
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CH 9 is off many times anyway
Whenever I have flown SFO-FRA and back, Ch 9 has only been rarely on. The one time it was one, once we crossed the Atlantic, it was dead silence. Then, you get all the Scottish ATC's coming on, and I can barely understand them anyway, as we got over the UK. I don't know that I would miss Ch 9 since it is so infrequently on for international flights.
I will say that having ch9 on and the map is one of the most fun things about UA. It makes you feel like a kid again, and it brings back the excitement of flying. It will be too bad those two things will be gone.
I am happy that IFE is turned back on, though. Yay United!
I will say that having ch9 on and the map is one of the most fun things about UA. It makes you feel like a kid again, and it brings back the excitement of flying. It will be too bad those two things will be gone.
I am happy that IFE is turned back on, though. Yay United!
Dec 28, 2009, 10:30 pm
#255
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Whenever I have flown SFO-FRA and back, Ch 9 has only been rarely on. The one time it was one, once we crossed the Atlantic, it was dead silence. Then, you get all the Scottish ATC's coming on, and I can barely understand them anyway, as we got over the UK. I don't know that I would miss Ch 9 since it is so infrequently on for international flights.
(Completely agree that it's pointless, but it's 100% consistent with the rest of the pointless "no geo-positional disclosure" rules.)