Ted

Edmonton MLL indicates domestic only... were you able to get access with a transboarder BP? AC board indicates this may be possible with carry-on only by going through domestic security and then proceeding to US connections.

Thanks.

ThomasBrown

I'm a 1K who was travelling LAX - YYZ (Toronto) with a 90 min. connection in. Washington Dulles

I tried using the Red Carpet Club in terminal 7 LAX but was told *G for International flights not recognized for trips to Canada.

I had to connect in Wash. Dulles and was able to use the Red Carpet Club here without any issue.

What is the rule?

rankourabu

you were lied to/misinformed
Should have had no issues at LAX by presenting your IAD-YYZ boarding pass.

CloudsBelow

hi all,
sure this has been asked to death.
Friend and I flying to Hawaii with some longish layovers in ORD and SFO both ways. Can we access RCC with International First (Canada) tickets.

No *A status. Solely Domestic First class tickets.

TIA

emcampbe

Canada counts as international for RCC enterance purposes. You should definitely be able to access the RCC in ORD. I've done this before, coming in to ORD from YYZ in F, and connecting to an express flight without an F cabin. No problem getting in. Not sure about SFO though. I'd keep your F YYZ-ORD BP with you to show them in SFO (and ORD). You are technically flying in F from an international destination same day.

davem4

I had a F ticket on Asiana (ICN-LAX), then connecting in UA F to SFO (same ticket).

I was denied entry at RCC in LAX.

Was this correct?

I found it very poor of United to not allow people both international and domestic F into a domestic lounge.

WineCountryUA

yep,
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...da-merged.html
Canada is considered international for RCC access, so international premium cabin seating qualifies for RCC -- but only when departing as International F -- so just for the return flight to Canada (standard *A rules)
that was correct -- standard *A rules

N1120A

US are breaking the rules if this is true. That is not part of the carve-out (no access to domestic *G on domestic flights). I've had a US matron tell me this and she got yelled at later by her station manager.

Yes

That is incorrect. RCC access for *G is available at every airport along the journey. I do think you are technically correct in the case of international first, but I can't imagine they would turn someone holding an international first ticket away on their domestic leg.

I am absolutely shocked here. The reason I say this is because the LAX staff are generally the nicest and most knowledgeable about the rules, and will make sure you can get in if you fit the rules. I've seen them ask US/CO/UA *Gs if they have onward BPs to international destinations just in case they can get them in. I've also been told, despite the fact that I'm also a RCC member, by check-in that I am welcome to use the RCC when on an international connecting itinerary because of my 1K status.

CloudsBelow

One last wrinkle that's going to screw me no doubt . . .

Was flying YYZ-ORD-SFO in F

Changed it to YOW-ORD-SFO. It's still a 'first class' ticket but the YOW-ORD is all Y ERJ.

Does this kill my entry to RCC at ORD? Please tell me it doesnt as i have 3 hours to kill!

Thanks

WineCountryUA

no RCC at ORD either way based on ticket class -- not departing ORD in international F class

CloudsBelow

What?
What do you make of the post above . . .
"Canada counts as international for RCC enterance purposes. You should definitely be able to access the RCC in ORD. I've done this before, coming in to ORD from YYZ in F, and connecting to an express flight without an F cabin. No problem getting in. Not sure about SFO though. I'd keep your F YYZ-ORD BP with you to show them in SFO (and ORD). You are technically flying in F from an international destination same day.

pschafer

Yet Another Question (YAQ) on this lounge access issue. My husband and I are departing tomorrow for the following trip and I just want to double check my RCC and MLL assumptions and ask a question:

SYD-LAX on UA in C so we use the NZ lounge in SYD

LAX-YYZ on AC in J (so I assume we can use the RCC in LAX - is there a MLL in LAX and if not where is the closest RCC to the AC departure terminal?)

YYZ-YVR on AC in J so MLL access will be fine

YVR-SFO on UA in Y due to an involuntary schedule/aircraft change by UA to a flight with no F (so can we use the MLL by special exception??). (BTW we never even got a schedule change notice on this change - time, flight number and class of service changed - I did not bother to complain as there really wasn't a better option looking at the timetable).

SFO-SYD on UA in C so RCC access will be fine

Note we're done this itinerary or similar many times but this will be the first time since dropping from Premier Exec to 'scumbag' aka GM and I an finding the lounge access rules to be a bit confusing. This thread has helped a lot.

thanks.

WineCountryUA

*G have access to RCCs on an international itinerary (independent of class of service)
FC have access to RCCs on an international FC departure from local airport
two different rules -- which applies in your case? you did not report your *A status

all the other legs should not be a problem since seating in business (no guest allowed but since both in business you will be OK)
This leg could be a problem since you are not *G or departing international premium cabin -- you might be able to talk your way by explaining the circumstances but strict rule reading says no.

emcampbe

I was at the time, and still am a 2P. The poster said they were in F coming from Canada, and I think I mentioned I was in F ex-Canada in mine. As long as one of the two things you mentioned above are true, then it shouldn't matter.

gregas

You should be allowed in either the RCC (T7) or MLL (T2). I have not been to that particular MLL, but by other MLL/RCC comparisions, I'm guessing that it's superior. It's also not on the opposite side of the airport from your departing plane as the T7 RCC is.

I'm guessing the if you are on an F fare but could not be accommodated in the F cabin due to equipment change, you will still have access.