Anyone Remember This?
 

1964: UNITED AIR LINES Network


Originally from airlineroute.net (none of the work is mine).

I notice a there was a pseudo hub in ATL and BWI. UA also had a presence in the south. Yes this was during regulation but it is still interesting to me.

Very interesting. Thanks for posting it. Some non-obvious city pairs!

Buffalo to Rochester? Must have been a 10 minute flight. Funny - growing up in BUF, and going to college in ROC, I do vaguely remember taking this flight once, but i think it was to pick up pax on route to next stop.

but then again, i did also fly SFO-OAK once on UA!

And if I read the listing correctly, BWI to DCA. Can that be more than 30 air miles?

For awhile in the 90s, they had SFO-SJC via shuttlebus. It earned RDMs!

It went into June 2002. It made for some nice deals. ;)

I can't even remember if I even mentioned this past back in March 2009 when I did the list. But I thought it'd be interesting to mention it again on twitter when I was doing some blog format changes today.

Based on the Aug 1964 North American OAG, BWI DCA block time is 25 minutes, BWI IAD (DIA at the time) is 42 minutes. BUF ROC is 24 minutes

this was back in the day when the airlines did not have to worry about profit.

I remember that shuttle bus!~ I booked a flight to ORD/SFO/SJC only to learn it was a shuttle bus on the day of the flight! Got stuck in traffic and never made that mistake again! lol :cool:

US currently flies BUF-ROC. It's listed as 40 minutes.

I love commercial aviation history. :)

UA also once operated a hub in CLE, but it was dismantled by the time I started flying, in 1989 (LAX-IAD on a DC10). Interesting too is that UA had always had a small presence in NYC and MIA, factors that I believe led to the failure of the efforts to build hubs at each location later on.

Oftentimes the flights were cheaper to book from SJC than SFO. It was also possible to skip the bus and just show up at SFO for your flight. Sometimes 101N was a standstill as northsideguy mentioned so it was common for people to skip the bus ride and get to SFO by other means--yet you still got the EQMs.

Not really. They just did not purchase airlines in the those areas. AA had no presance in MIA until they bought the Eastern south american routes and hub assets. AA went south UA went to Asia. It's all who they bought. AA also has the NYC city presance bascailly because they bought the TWA LHR routes. DL bought Pan Am routes.

All in what they bought, simple as that.



All in

Agreed in some respects, disagree in others. Pan Am's "LAMER" assets that UA bought did not come with significant domestic feed -- PA was not allowed to fly domestically until late in the regulated era, and it never fully worked out the merger with National. OTOH, Eastern's LAMER network was much better developed, including the crucial NYC-MIA market, with which AA took good advantage of.

AA was headquartered in New York until deregulation. It had always had a large presence in the local NYC market, albeit based in LGA, with a much larger customer base compared to UA. Thus AA did not develop JFK solely on the backs of TWA's LHR slots.

Wow, Akron to Cleveland? That's just a regular daily commute to some!