United 1Ks will have access to M class upgrades on CO (all UA elites to B/Y)
Nov 17, 2009, 12:16 pm
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As we all know, .bomb at present has no direct way to purchase specific fare classes. CO.com does, thus making purchase of the "M" Plat instant upgrade an easy transaction. You can see availability and seats for flights before purchasing your ticket. No surprises later.
Nov 17, 2009, 12:27 pm
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Will UA 1Ks be able to get unlimited upgrades on non Y/B/M fares are the normal Plat elite windows?
Nov 17, 2009, 12:47 pm
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They were around $600 when first introduced in July, and I certainly took advantage of that. Now LAX-, SFO-, SAN-, and DEN-EWR are all > $1000 RT, so it's not the deal that it once was. The M-ups are only good to/from hubs as well, from what I can ascertain (for example, there are no published M fares that I've found ex-DEN except to IAH, CLE, and EWR).
Nov 17, 2009, 1:18 pm
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Yes...SEA/PDX/LAS-EWR M fares are still a great deal. I really wish that they hadn't jacked up DEN-EWR, but I suspected at the time that it was related to the UA alliance, and I still think there's someting to my suspicions.
Nov 17, 2009, 1:38 pm
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UA can't keep CR1's and also do Y/B/M free upgrades, IMO. Too many free upgrades floating around.
Nov 17, 2009, 1:44 pm
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Is Guam considered domestic for the purpose of these upgrades? 
Too lazy to search the FT archive. There, I said it.
Too lazy to search the FT archive. There, I said it.
Nov 17, 2009, 2:01 pm
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It is, as long as you're not on the n/s HNL-GUM flights.
This leaves the milk-run/island hopper for both Mups (as well as UDUs) in addition to the various other destinations ex GUM.
I don't know if M+ UDU will extend to Copa, but if they do, you could theoretically be eligible for UDU's/M,B,Y-UPs from EZE to CNS or NRT...assuming you were willing to travel across the planets on 737's.
EZE-PTY-LAX-HNL-Island Hopper-GUM-NRT
This leaves the milk-run/island hopper for both Mups (as well as UDUs) in addition to the various other destinations ex GUM.
I don't know if M+ UDU will extend to Copa, but if they do, you could theoretically be eligible for UDU's/M,B,Y-UPs from EZE to CNS or NRT...assuming you were willing to travel across the planets on 737's.
EZE-PTY-LAX-HNL-Island Hopper-GUM-NRT
Nov 17, 2009, 8:31 pm
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Government Fares
I wonder if Government fares will continue to be eligible? I have booked many times on Continental with the Y and B automatic upgrades on a government fare and been successful in upgrading. United's policy is much more strict and does not allow automatic upgrades on Y and B government fares. Hopefully this is reconciled by favoring the Continental policy.
Nov 17, 2009, 11:27 pm
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What fare bucket does CO's M upgrade come from? Is it the F bucket or is it something along the lines of UA's NF, which is capacity controlled and elusive?
Nov 17, 2009, 11:43 pm
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Do you all know how few US elites fly UA metal? And US's product doesn't even begin to compare to UA's...
Nov 17, 2009, 11:46 pm
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US elites don't get E+ access. CO elites will, as well as on the disposition list for upgrades to F.
Nov 18, 2009, 12:54 am
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Not a chance. People have their reasons for being loyal to one mileage program. CO flyers are not going to upset their flying patterns for an upgrade program they already have and a couple inches of legroom. Not to mention, CO F is lightyears ahead of UA's domestic F product.This whole thing is a matter of convenience for both CO and UA flyers. We now have more options available to us. This is not about poaching customers from one carrier to the other.
Nov 18, 2009, 7:30 am
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So because of those two things, loyal CO flyers are going to frequent UA metal? Not a chance. People have their reasons for being loyal to one mileage program. CO flyers are not going to upset their flying patterns for an upgrade program they already have and a couple inches of legroom. Not to mention, CO F is lightyears ahead of UA's domestic F product.
This whole thing is a matter of convenience for both CO and UA flyers. We now have more options available to us. This is not about poaching customers from one carrier to the other.
Not a chance. People have their reasons for being loyal to one mileage program. CO flyers are not going to upset their flying patterns for an upgrade program they already have and a couple inches of legroom. Not to mention, CO F is lightyears ahead of UA's domestic F product.This whole thing is a matter of convenience for both CO and UA flyers. We now have more options available to us. This is not about poaching customers from one carrier to the other.
Nov 18, 2009, 7:43 am
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First/BusinessFirst non-Elite capacity controlled EasyPass reward (tracks similar to Z availability to book)
ZE - B or M (Platinums only) fare that has been upgraded at time of ticketing, earns EQMs/EQPs based on the underlying purchased fare (B/M).
Please note, these are only applicable for non-BusinessFirst routes and neither FE nor ZE are valid for BusinessFirst upgrades.
Please note, these are only applicable for non-BusinessFirst routes and neither FE nor ZE are valid for BusinessFirst upgrades.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/6719389-post13.html
Nov 29, 2009, 11:03 am
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Have looked at this thread and the Continental linked thread, and still can't find the answer to this.
I'm looking at an international itinerary with one Continental domestic segment. The fare class is BUAUP, which the review itinerary page says is an A fare which books into First. But, as far as I have been able to ascertain, Continental does not have an A class, so this must be a UA A-class fare? It seems to come up no matter whether the UA segments are priced in the lowest available Economy (S and W), in H or in B, and whether I search anonymously or as a 1K.
So ─
(a) Why is this apparently the only fare available on a midweek flight nearly two months away?
(b) Is it a UA or a CO fare? The UA ***UP thread is 3 years old and sheds no light.
(c) It would appear that it gets 150% EQM, but does it also get 150% RDM?
I'm looking at an international itinerary with one Continental domestic segment. The fare class is BUAUP, which the review itinerary page says is an A fare which books into First. But, as far as I have been able to ascertain, Continental does not have an A class, so this must be a UA A-class fare? It seems to come up no matter whether the UA segments are priced in the lowest available Economy (S and W), in H or in B, and whether I search anonymously or as a 1K.
So ─
(a) Why is this apparently the only fare available on a midweek flight nearly two months away?
(b) Is it a UA or a CO fare? The UA ***UP thread is 3 years old and sheds no light.
(c) It would appear that it gets 150% EQM, but does it also get 150% RDM?