E+ Full and Back-end Half Full
#16
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: BWI / DCA / IAD
Programs: United Gold, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold Club
Posts: 56
Why are you worried about it? Jeff said, "You'll see a number of changes in the months ahead, and I think you'll like them."


#17




Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA; Philadelphia, PA
Programs: FA
Posts: 6,491
Why are you worried about it? Jeff said, "You'll see a number of changes in the months ahead, and I think you'll like them."
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#18
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Virginia (IAD)
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 228
This is becoming all too familiar to me. Especially on hub to hub flights, which I seem to be in a rut on lately being IAD based and having work in DEN and SFO. Monday morning is the worst, 2 weeks ago I was on 977 to SFO on a last minute E fare...arrived to the gate as #2 / 78 on the UG list with 3 seats available and never cleared. I got to enjoy row 41 for the first time since becoming low level elite years ago.
Next Monday 11-8 I am routing through ORD to DEN (via an outstation) and same phenomenon again...only this time booked 2 weeks out. At least in this case I am the middle of the E- cabin with plenty of seats available on a S fare.
IMO we are dealing with the following factors...
-All of the 2009 legacy elites and 2010 new elites 2P and higher qualify for E+. Beginning in Feb, it will only be 2010 elites (at least for a few months).
-All of the same as above for CO, and anecdotally at least it seems as if more CO elites are trying out UA as opposed to the inverse
-UA is marketing E+ buy ups harder than ever before, ostensibly with some success
I can sort of see the last minute hub to hub Monday AM purchase being sold out in E+...but the same thing 2 weeks+ out? I am a business traveler who never books more than 4 weeks out and usually books inside 2 weeks. If this is what I have to look forward to, I can fly WN...US...Virgin America and a few others ex-IAD to these places, usually for much less than UA advance purchase or not.
Next Monday 11-8 I am routing through ORD to DEN (via an outstation) and same phenomenon again...only this time booked 2 weeks out. At least in this case I am the middle of the E- cabin with plenty of seats available on a S fare.
IMO we are dealing with the following factors...
-All of the 2009 legacy elites and 2010 new elites 2P and higher qualify for E+. Beginning in Feb, it will only be 2010 elites (at least for a few months).
-All of the same as above for CO, and anecdotally at least it seems as if more CO elites are trying out UA as opposed to the inverse
-UA is marketing E+ buy ups harder than ever before, ostensibly with some success
I can sort of see the last minute hub to hub Monday AM purchase being sold out in E+...but the same thing 2 weeks+ out? I am a business traveler who never books more than 4 weeks out and usually books inside 2 weeks. If this is what I have to look forward to, I can fly WN...US...Virgin America and a few others ex-IAD to these places, usually for much less than UA advance purchase or not.
#19
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SAT
Programs: Hilton Honors, AA Gold, Delta Silver Medallion, UA Premier Executive
Posts: 113
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I'm seeing this too for an upcoming HKG trip. I took 58B and am keeping my fingers crossed on the upgrade.
I'm seeing this too for an upcoming HKG trip. I took 58B and am keeping my fingers crossed on the upgrade.
#20
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NY Metro Area
Programs: AA 2MM Yay!, UA MM, Costco General Member
Posts: 50,856
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GF - Do you prefer 58B over a 45C or 45H, exit row seat? Haven't scouted out the back of the United bus -- am I missing a roomy & comfortable option in the sea of E-?
Heh, I'm hoping I won't find out. I don't think that the exit rows were available on my flights. I'm basing it purely on Seatguru. Also, the three across on the 744s is pretty grim. I will update but I'm hoping that as 1K on a B fare I won't have much more info than I have now.
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I'm seeing this too for an upcoming HKG trip. I took 58B and am keeping my fingers crossed on the upgrade.
I'm seeing this too for an upcoming HKG trip. I took 58B and am keeping my fingers crossed on the upgrade.

