Original Routing Credit (ORC) After Involuntary Re-Routing/Re-Booking (Archive)
#1186
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: WAS-ish
Programs: UA 1K-MM + UC, Marriott Plat, National Exec
Posts: 1,341
No need. Give the outbound 4 or 5 days to post and you should be fine to call in for ORC, based on my experience.
#1187
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: Continental OnePass
Posts: 856
So the mileage posted for my rerouted journey. Interestingly, it turns out when they rerouted me they booked me into Y class, so I got the fare class bonus. Thus even though the rerouted itinerary covered fewer miles I actually earned more PQM than I would've done on my original itinerary, so no need to file for ORC.
#1188
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: United, Hilton, Marriott, Hertz, National
Posts: 189
This trip is currently in process, so the miles haven't posted yet. Just trying to be proactive and make sure I know what to keep an eye out for...
Original itinerary (SK ticket stock):
CLE-ORD (UA, P); ORD-ARN (SK, Z); ARN-GDN (SK, Z)
CLE-ORD segment was delayed and would have preventing me from making the rest of the onward segments. Agent at UC in CLE put me on the following itinerary:
New itinerary (UA ticket stock and labeled INVOL):
CLE-IAD (UA, Z); IAD-FRA (UA, Y - upgraded to R); FRA-GDN (LH, C)
1) When I look at the receipt on my MP account, it appears the IAD-FRA segment will post as Z with the higher mileage accruals, rather than Y. I hope this actually occurs since I was ultimately on a paid business class fare.
2) If my calculations are correct, the new routing will result in more PQM, PQD, and PQS - mainly driven by the fact that I went from SK to UA ticket stock. Will I get the higher amounts?
3) Anything else I should be concerned with?
Thanks!
Original itinerary (SK ticket stock):
CLE-ORD (UA, P); ORD-ARN (SK, Z); ARN-GDN (SK, Z)
CLE-ORD segment was delayed and would have preventing me from making the rest of the onward segments. Agent at UC in CLE put me on the following itinerary:
New itinerary (UA ticket stock and labeled INVOL):
CLE-IAD (UA, Z); IAD-FRA (UA, Y - upgraded to R); FRA-GDN (LH, C)
1) When I look at the receipt on my MP account, it appears the IAD-FRA segment will post as Z with the higher mileage accruals, rather than Y. I hope this actually occurs since I was ultimately on a paid business class fare.
2) If my calculations are correct, the new routing will result in more PQM, PQD, and PQS - mainly driven by the fact that I went from SK to UA ticket stock. Will I get the higher amounts?
3) Anything else I should be concerned with?
Thanks!
#1189
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,043
This trip is currently in process, so the miles haven't posted yet. Just trying to be proactive and make sure I know what to keep an eye out for...
Original itinerary (SK ticket stock):
CLE-ORD (UA, P); ORD-ARN (SK, Z); ARN-GDN (SK, Z)
CLE-ORD segment was delayed and would have preventing me from making the rest of the onward segments. Agent at UC in CLE put me on the following itinerary:
New itinerary (UA ticket stock and labeled INVOL):
CLE-IAD (UA, Z); IAD-FRA (UA, Y - upgraded to R); FRA-GDN (LH, C)
1) When I look at the receipt on my MP account, it appears the IAD-FRA segment will post as Z with the higher mileage accruals, rather than Y. I hope this actually occurs since I was ultimately on a paid business class fare.
2) If my calculations are correct, the new routing will result in more PQM, PQD, and PQS - mainly driven by the fact that I went from SK to UA ticket stock. Will I get the higher amounts?
3) Anything else I should be concerned with?
Thanks!
Original itinerary (SK ticket stock):
CLE-ORD (UA, P); ORD-ARN (SK, Z); ARN-GDN (SK, Z)
CLE-ORD segment was delayed and would have preventing me from making the rest of the onward segments. Agent at UC in CLE put me on the following itinerary:
New itinerary (UA ticket stock and labeled INVOL):
CLE-IAD (UA, Z); IAD-FRA (UA, Y - upgraded to R); FRA-GDN (LH, C)
1) When I look at the receipt on my MP account, it appears the IAD-FRA segment will post as Z with the higher mileage accruals, rather than Y. I hope this actually occurs since I was ultimately on a paid business class fare.
2) If my calculations are correct, the new routing will result in more PQM, PQD, and PQS - mainly driven by the fact that I went from SK to UA ticket stock. Will I get the higher amounts?
3) Anything else I should be concerned with?
Thanks!
#1190
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: United, Hilton, Marriott, Hertz, National
Posts: 189
The Y-->R happened because the UC agent couldn't confirm me in business at the time I was rerouted. Instead, she put me at the top of the upgrade list on the IAD-FRA flight and wished me luck. Thankfully, the upgrade went through after the flight closed about 10 minutes before boarding - otherwise it would have been seat 42B on a 772! Unfortunately, no other routing we could come up with had a confirmable business seat and leaving the next day wasn't an option for me.
#1191
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,043
Well, I'm not sure it'll be Z exactly. Based on the MP accrual calculations on the receipt, it looks like I'll be getting the 200% PQM for the segment - rather than the 150% I would get if I was Y.
The Y-->R happened because the UC agent couldn't confirm me in business at the time I was rerouted. Instead, she put me at the top of the upgrade list on the IAD-FRA flight and wished me luck. Thankfully, the upgrade went through after the flight closed about 10 minutes before boarding - otherwise it would have been seat 42B on a 772! Unfortunately, no other routing we could come up with had a confirmable business seat and leaving the next day wasn't an option for me.
The Y-->R happened because the UC agent couldn't confirm me in business at the time I was rerouted. Instead, she put me at the top of the upgrade list on the IAD-FRA flight and wished me luck. Thankfully, the upgrade went through after the flight closed about 10 minutes before boarding - otherwise it would have been seat 42B on a 772! Unfortunately, no other routing we could come up with had a confirmable business seat and leaving the next day wasn't an option for me.
#1192
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: gggrrrovvveee (ORD)
Programs: UA Pt, Marriott Ti, Hertz PC
Posts: 6,091
I just submitted a request for ORC for my flights last week.
Scheduled to fly XXX-SFO-ORD, but due to wildfires/smoke, XXX-SFO was going to be about 2.5-3 hours delayed and likely would have missed SFO-ORD.
I got the red banner/exclamation point in my app to change flights, so got myself on the XXX-ORD non-stop about 10 minutes before XXX-SFO boarded.
I have no idea how this situation gets coded in the system (INVOL vs VOL or something else), although WineCountry seems to suggest only an agent-initiated change is coded as such.
Any similar experience being prompted to change your flight through the app due to potential IRROPS and still getting ORC? went back about 70 posts and didn't see anything relevant.
Scheduled to fly XXX-SFO-ORD, but due to wildfires/smoke, XXX-SFO was going to be about 2.5-3 hours delayed and likely would have missed SFO-ORD.
I got the red banner/exclamation point in my app to change flights, so got myself on the XXX-ORD non-stop about 10 minutes before XXX-SFO boarded.
I have no idea how this situation gets coded in the system (INVOL vs VOL or something else), although WineCountry seems to suggest only an agent-initiated change is coded as such.
Any similar experience being prompted to change your flight through the app due to potential IRROPS and still getting ORC? went back about 70 posts and didn't see anything relevant.
#1193
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: EWR/LHR/SFO
Programs: UA 1K 1MM
Posts: 574
I just submitted a request for ORC for my flights last week.
Scheduled to fly XXX-SFO-ORD, but due to wildfires/smoke, XXX-SFO was going to be about 2.5-3 hours delayed and likely would have missed SFO-ORD.
I got the red banner/exclamation point in my app to change flights, so got myself on the XXX-ORD non-stop about 10 minutes before XXX-SFO boarded.
I have no idea how this situation gets coded in the system (INVOL vs VOL or something else), although WineCountry seems to suggest only an agent-initiated change is coded as such.
Any similar experience being prompted to change your flight through the app due to potential IRROPS and still getting ORC? went back about 70 posts and didn't see anything relevant.
Scheduled to fly XXX-SFO-ORD, but due to wildfires/smoke, XXX-SFO was going to be about 2.5-3 hours delayed and likely would have missed SFO-ORD.
I got the red banner/exclamation point in my app to change flights, so got myself on the XXX-ORD non-stop about 10 minutes before XXX-SFO boarded.
I have no idea how this situation gets coded in the system (INVOL vs VOL or something else), although WineCountry seems to suggest only an agent-initiated change is coded as such.
Any similar experience being prompted to change your flight through the app due to potential IRROPS and still getting ORC? went back about 70 posts and didn't see anything relevant.
#1194
Join Date: May 2016
Programs: United Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 72
Which of the links below is the correct/best site to request an ORC?
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...countInfo.aspx
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/mil...mileagecredit/
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...countInfo.aspx
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/mil...mileagecredit/
#1195
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,043
Which of the links below is the correct/best site to request an ORC?
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...countInfo.aspx
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/mil...mileagecredit/
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...countInfo.aspx
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/mil...mileagecredit/
#1196
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
The first link (email to MP) does have a mileage credit option. I would give it a try.
#1197
Join Date: May 2016
Programs: United Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 72
This is my first time requesting original routing credit (I did not know we could before).
When an IRROPS on United metal results in a missed flight connection on a partner airline, and an involuntary rerouting on a non-partner airline, is it customary for United to refer the request for routing credit to the partner airline? Thanks!
When an IRROPS on United metal results in a missed flight connection on a partner airline, and an involuntary rerouting on a non-partner airline, is it customary for United to refer the request for routing credit to the partner airline? Thanks!
#1198
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,852
Doubtful the partner would be willing to do anything based on UA's issue.
#1199
Join Date: May 2016
Programs: United Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 72
#1200
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,852