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757FO Feb 6, 2018 8:51 am

In the past, I have had PAXs actually criticize our interaction with ATC, and often times the CA will not turn on channel 9 for that reason. One time in particular, going into SFO, we had a passenger actually argue with us over the decision to accept an approach he felt we should not have accepted, for various reasons. Mind you, he was not an ATP or type rated for the Boeing, but marched into the flightdeck after the flight, and proceeded to criticize the last 40 minutes of our flight. It was downright bizarre. Making it even more ironic, it was during a line check, and the line check airman and he got into a pretty heated argument. People are very strange sometimes...

nnn Feb 6, 2018 9:23 am


Originally Posted by 757FO (Post 29385782)
In the past, I have had PAXs actually criticize our interaction with ATC, and often times the CA will not turn on channel 9 for that reason. One time in particular, going into SFO, we had a passenger actually argue with us over the decision to accept an approach he felt we should not have accepted, for various reasons. Mind you, he was not an ATP or type rated for the Boeing, but marched into the flightdeck after the flight, and proceeded to criticize the last 40 minutes of our flight. It was downright bizarre. Making it even more ironic, it was during a line check, and the line check airman and he got into a pretty heated argument. People are very strange sometimes...

It's too bad that what I assume is a small minority has to ruin it for everyone else. I, like many who have posted in this thread, love Channel 9 and have enjoyed listening to it since I was young (so long ago).

clubord Feb 6, 2018 9:53 am


Originally Posted by 757FO (Post 29385782)
In the past, I have had PAXs actually criticize our interaction with ATC, and often times the CA will not turn on channel 9 for that reason. One time in particular, going into SFO, we had a passenger actually argue with us over the decision to accept an approach he felt we should not have accepted, for various reasons. Mind you, he was not an ATP or type rated for the Boeing, but marched into the flightdeck after the flight, and proceeded to criticize the last 40 minutes of our flight. It was downright bizarre. Making it even more ironic, it was during a line check, and the line check airman and he got into a pretty heated argument. People are very strange sometimes...

I'll second this. Had to answer to a Chief Pilot years ago about a passenger complaint similar to that - said we were flying at the wrong altitude.

I'll reluctantly turn Channel 9 on if someone asks, but it usually stays off.

BThumme Feb 12, 2018 9:09 am

Asking FA’s to relay my request seems like an exercise in futility. On a 763 right now and asked my FA if they could ask the pilot to turn it on, FA came back saying he asked his lead attendant and they said it’s not available on this plane...I’m staring at the screen right now that says to turn into the channel. All I can do is smile and say thanks for trying.

edit: the lead FA came back to me an apologized for the misunderstanding and said that this plane does indeed have it and the pilot would turn it on. For that, I will make sure to leave a good word for the crew.

asphaltman Feb 13, 2018 10:20 pm


Originally Posted by BThumme (Post 29408341)
Asking FA’s to relay my request seems like an exercise in futility. On a 763 right now and asked my FA if they could ask the pilot to turn it on, FA came back saying he asked his lead attendant and they said it’s not available on this plane...I’m staring at the screen right now that says to turn into the channel. All I can do is smile and say thanks for trying.

edit: the lead FA came back to me an apologized for the misunderstanding and said that this plane does indeed have it and the pilot would turn it on. For that, I will make sure to leave a good word for the crew.

That was exactly my experience. I’m glad the 77W has it, that means it may not be completely dead after all. I’m still hoping it gets added to the PDE like they mentioned years ago.

BThumme Feb 14, 2018 7:37 am


Originally Posted by asphaltman (Post 29414141)


That was exactly my experience. I’m glad the 77W has it, that means it may not be completely dead after all. I’m still hoping it gets added to the PDE like they mentioned years ago.

Actually...they said they would turn it on for me but it didn't get turned on at all. And I didn't want to be "that guy" so didn't followup.

StuckinITH Mar 2, 2018 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 29141082)
It's likely that the enabling switch was on, but the #1VHF radio at the left jumpseater's position was not faded up. Both must happen to allow passengers to hear ATC. The fact that it happened twice on the same aircraft months apart is just a coincidence.


Originally Posted by BThumme (Post 29415371)
Actually...they said they would turn it on for me but it didn't get turned on at all. And I didn't want to be "that guy" so didn't followup.

Maybe this is what happened on your flight.

WineCountryUA Mar 2, 2018 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton (Post 29479091)
BOS-SFO on a p.s. 752 :td:

I was one of the last to board and I happened to ask the FO on the jetbridge if Ch 9 would be on. He didn't think that the aircraft had it, but said he would check with the Captain. Never was turned on. :(

Beleive the 16-seat lie flat 752 version does not have CH9 . But the 28 seat lie-flat 752 does.

wxguy Mar 3, 2018 7:33 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 29479485)
Beleive the 16-seat lie flat 752 version does not have CH9 . But the 28 seat lie-flat 752 does.

You are correct, WC. The 16-seat is a pmCO plane and never had the capability installed. The 28-seat is pmUA and their legacy fleet had it.

pushmyredbutton Mar 3, 2018 10:03 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 29479485)
Beleive the 16-seat lie flat 752 version does not have CH9 . But the 28 seat lie-flat 752 does.

Sorry, should have been more specific. This was a pmUA 752.

ContinentalFan Mar 3, 2018 10:35 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 29479485)
Beleive the 16-seat lie flat 752 version does not have CH9 . But the 28 seat lie-flat 752 does.

Thanks. I didn’t know about the pmUA 752s. I’ll be on one next week and am going to ask about channel 9.

Karl-MDW Mar 8, 2018 7:37 am

It has been such a long time since I was on a Channel 9 equipped plane that I have almost forgotten that this still even exists.

There was a time that listening to Channel 9 was the only entertainment I did on a plane. Oh, how I wish...

pdxflyer12 Mar 8, 2018 11:23 am


Originally Posted by Karl-MDW (Post 29499920)
It has been such a long time since I was on a Channel 9 equipped plane that I have almost forgotten that this still even exists.

There was a time that listening to Channel 9 was the only entertainment I did on a plane. Oh, how I wish...

Just had channel 9 available on my SFO-AKL flight. Captain announced they have it on the whole flight, but let everyone know due to most of the flight being over water only the first 30 and last 30 of the flight would have any actual audio. I appreciated him letting us know it was available versus having to go and search.

tryathlete Mar 8, 2018 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by 757FO (Post 29385782)
In the past, I have had PAXs actually criticize our interaction with ATC, and often times the CA will not turn on channel 9 for that reason. One time in particular, going into SFO, we had a passenger actually argue with us over the decision to accept an approach he felt we should not have accepted, for various reasons. Mind you, he was not an ATP or type rated for the Boeing, but marched into the flightdeck after the flight, and proceeded to criticize the last 40 minutes of our flight. It was downright bizarre. Making it even more ironic, it was during a line check, and the line check airman and he got into a pretty heated argument. People are very strange sometimes...

if i knew someone on my flight did that, I’d wait until we were clear of the terminal and kneecap ‘em for bein a wise guy. LOL

noah Mar 12, 2018 6:28 pm

I just came here to say... I miss Ch 9. All I fly are 737s these days and I have no idea what is happening from the cockpit.


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