Nov 25, 2016, 11:53 am
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
"Short Checking" -- the practice of checking bags to a location short of your travel destination is no longer permitted by UA (and many airlines). It is believed one reason for this is to discourage "Hidden City Ticketing."
There are a couple of exceptions / loopholes
-- Over nights in route stays -- you are overnight at a connecting city.
Long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated) (>12 hours)
UA policy on connecting bags requiring recheck
-- Port of entry for USA arrivals
At most USA port of entries, you will have clear customs and you then can exit with your baggage (or recheck).
This does not work at IAD mid-field arrivals since must clear TSA to exit.
Also PreClearance airports (where you clear immigration and customs at the departure international city -- such as most Canada-USA flights and DUB and some Caribbean)
There are a couple of exceptions / loopholes
-- Over nights in route stays -- you are overnight at a connecting city.
Long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated) (>12 hours)
UA policy on connecting bags requiring recheck
-- Port of entry for USA arrivals
At most USA port of entries, you will have clear customs and you then can exit with your baggage (or recheck).
This does not work at IAD mid-field arrivals since must clear TSA to exit.
Also PreClearance airports (where you clear immigration and customs at the departure international city -- such as most Canada-USA flights and DUB and some Caribbean)
Default time is 12 hours. A small number of individual stations are enabled to allow bags to be checked thru for connections greater than 12 hours. Maybe we can build a list based on people's experiences for certain connection points.
I know FCO is up to 16 hours. SIN, HND, FRA, MUC, ZRH, BRU should all allow up to 24 hours.
I know FCO is up to 16 hours. SIN, HND, FRA, MUC, ZRH, BRU should all allow up to 24 hours.
UA will not Short Check bags (but some loopholes)
Jul 19, 2018, 6:55 pm
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They can give you the luggage on the return flight as they have to claim in LAX before checking in for DFW.
Dallas to Los Angeles isn't really that far though - what luggage items do you need that can't be shipped?
Dallas to Los Angeles isn't really that far though - what luggage items do you need that can't be shipped?
Aug 6, 2018, 1:56 pm
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Travelling back as follows tomorrow
TPA - EWR award ticket seperate PNR
EWR - LHR P Class with onward connection to
LHR - ZRH. P Class all on one ticket
can I get a bag checked as far as LHR and no further?
thanks
TPA - EWR award ticket seperate PNR
EWR - LHR P Class with onward connection to
LHR - ZRH. P Class all on one ticket
can I get a bag checked as far as LHR and no further?
thanks
Aug 6, 2018, 2:14 pm
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OP is attempting to utilize hidden-city ticketing and still check a bag.
Aug 6, 2018, 2:18 pm
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Oct 13, 2018, 6:36 pm
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Here's a different spin. A companion is flying with me to Costa Rica, business class. She is booked from SBA-DEN-SJO and I am DEN-SJO. Can she check one bag to DEN and another to SJO, so we can collect and store one bag in DEN for a future visit?
Oct 13, 2018, 6:45 pm
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That’s called a short check and UA, in most cases, won’t do it. I assume she is on one ticket SBA-DEN-SJO.
Oct 22, 2018, 12:17 pm
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I just happen to come across this thread, however I almost always short check bags. I wanted to get clarification on this:
Background: I travel for business and always check 1 or 2 pelican cases which are toolboxes. On the most extreme days, I can hit multiple cities at a time with even more segments.
Example: ORD->IAH, stop for service call, IAH->DFW, stop for service call, DFW->IAH->ORD->HSV. Yes, this is pretty much a weekly occurrence for me.
My company uses Concur and with the above example, it was booked as a multi-city Day 1: ORD->IAH->DFW->IAH->ORD->HSV, Day 2: HSV->IAD, service call, IAD->ORD.
Am I getting lucky or is there something that I need to be doing differently in booking if my luck runs out?
Wednesday I am taking the following routing ORD->DEN->SAC, service call, SAC->SFO->LAX, service call, Thursday LAX->ORD.
However I have no idea how Concur/United has booked the ticket until I actually get to the airport. Typically once I show an actual gate agent what I am doing with all of my boarding passes, they will always short check, however the contract employees always claim "it can't be done".
I am platinum, on the quick way to 1k, if it makes a difference.
Background: I travel for business and always check 1 or 2 pelican cases which are toolboxes. On the most extreme days, I can hit multiple cities at a time with even more segments.
Example: ORD->IAH, stop for service call, IAH->DFW, stop for service call, DFW->IAH->ORD->HSV. Yes, this is pretty much a weekly occurrence for me.
My company uses Concur and with the above example, it was booked as a multi-city Day 1: ORD->IAH->DFW->IAH->ORD->HSV, Day 2: HSV->IAD, service call, IAD->ORD.
Am I getting lucky or is there something that I need to be doing differently in booking if my luck runs out?
Wednesday I am taking the following routing ORD->DEN->SAC, service call, SAC->SFO->LAX, service call, Thursday LAX->ORD.
However I have no idea how Concur/United has booked the ticket until I actually get to the airport. Typically once I show an actual gate agent what I am doing with all of my boarding passes, they will always short check, however the contract employees always claim "it can't be done".
I am platinum, on the quick way to 1k, if it makes a difference.
Oct 22, 2018, 6:15 pm
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I just happen to come across this thread, however I almost always short check bags. I wanted to get clarification on this:
Background: I travel for business and always check 1 or 2 pelican cases which are toolboxes. On the most extreme days, I can hit multiple cities at a time with even more segments.
Example: ORD->IAH, stop for service call, IAH->DFW, stop for service call, DFW->IAH->ORD->HSV. Yes, this is pretty much a weekly occurrence for me.
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Background: I travel for business and always check 1 or 2 pelican cases which are toolboxes. On the most extreme days, I can hit multiple cities at a time with even more segments.
Example: ORD->IAH, stop for service call, IAH->DFW, stop for service call, DFW->IAH->ORD->HSV. Yes, this is pretty much a weekly occurrence for me.
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Oct 22, 2018, 7:39 pm
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At check-in, that piece may consider DFW the destination out of ORD despite the long layover. But it also will break things at DFW due to the return back to IAH.
Years ago, I traveled as an employee on business in one day DCA-ORD-IND meeting IND-DEN-SFO. The layover in IND was over four hours. Despite that, I saw the manifest for ORD-IND and it had me listed as connecting to the IND-DEN flight. No checked bags so how that piece worked I have no idea.
Mar 20, 2019, 3:44 am
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They were adement about 12 hours however I was able to explain why I run multi-city trips and that I was previously going last night however was delayed.
On another interesting note, the help desk will also walk agents through how to modify baggage destinations in Aero and NOT from within SHARES. This to me sounds like the knowledge base of SHARES is decreasing which will lead to extended times for the system to update.
Mar 20, 2019, 11:41 am
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Definitions: Stopover
Note just before this it states for International travel the rule is 24 hours.
Rule 23.A.5.e
Definitions: Stopover
Stopover means a deliberate interruption of travel by the Passenger, agreed to in advance by the carrier, at a point between the place of departure and the place of destination.
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For Domestic flights, a Stopover will also occur when a Passenger arrives at a point and fails to depart from such point on:
1. The first flight on which space is available; or
2. The flight that will provide for the Passenger’s earliest arrival at intermediate or junction transfer point(s) or destination point, via the carrier and class of service as shown on the Passenger’s Ticket; provided, however, that in no event will a Stopover occur when the Passenger departs from the intermediate/junction point on a flight shown in the carrier’s official general schedule as departing within four hours after arrival at such point.
....
For Domestic flights, a Stopover will also occur when a Passenger arrives at a point and fails to depart from such point on:
1. The first flight on which space is available; or
2. The flight that will provide for the Passenger’s earliest arrival at intermediate or junction transfer point(s) or destination point, via the carrier and class of service as shown on the Passenger’s Ticket; provided, however, that in no event will a Stopover occur when the Passenger departs from the intermediate/junction point on a flight shown in the carrier’s official general schedule as departing within four hours after arrival at such point.
Rule 23.A.5.e
5.Baggage will not be checked:
e. To an intermediate point unless the intermediate point to which the Baggage is to be checked is a permissible Stopover point at the fare paid (except if the Passenger is making a connection to the first available UA flight departing from such intermediate point and the connection exceeds four hours, the Passenger may reclaim his/her Baggage at such intermediate connecting point).
e. To an intermediate point unless the intermediate point to which the Baggage is to be checked is a permissible Stopover point at the fare paid (except if the Passenger is making a connection to the first available UA flight departing from such intermediate point and the connection exceeds four hours, the Passenger may reclaim his/her Baggage at such intermediate connecting point).
Apr 12, 2019, 6:53 pm
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Short check of luggage
Hello. What is the current situation with short checking luggage at a domestic connection point?
Flying as 1K from EWR. to SIN with connections in IAH and SFO; connection time in IAH of 7.5 hours by choice. Would I be able to check bags only to IAH and continue to SIN without checked bags? Thanks.
Flying as 1K from EWR. to SIN with connections in IAH and SFO; connection time in IAH of 7.5 hours by choice. Would I be able to check bags only to IAH and continue to SIN without checked bags? Thanks.
Apr 12, 2019, 7:02 pm
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For another discussion (for those wanting check-thru) see Overnight, long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated)
