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United Pilot Q & A {Archive}
Jun 1, 2019, 4:47 am
#6721
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Listening to CH9 on a recent westbound bound FRA-ORD flight I heard ATC tell the crew to "Login". What does that mean?
Jun 1, 2019, 5:00 am
#6722
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: KEWR
Programs: Marriott Platinum
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CPDLC is an efficient way to request/receive clearances like altitude, airspeed, VHF/HF frequency changes, etc. without ever having to verbally transmit over the radio.
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Jun 1, 2019, 7:46 am
#6723
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
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Jun 1, 2019, 8:57 am
#6724
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That is a reference to CPDLC. Once logged in, the ATC controlling agency can communicate with us via text instead of voice.
CPDLC is an efficient way to request/receive clearances like altitude, airspeed, VHF/HF frequency changes, etc. without ever having to verbally transmit over the radio.
Thanks!
Jun 1, 2019, 11:33 am
#6725
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In between IAD and DCA
Programs: UA Plat 1.1MM , Marriott Gold Elite, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,262
Aug 26, 2019, 12:10 pm
#6726
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In between IAD and DCA
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Was on a flight from IAD to IAH last week and was listening to LiveATC while boarding (clearance/ground channel). Almost all the planes were asked if they could maintain 10,000 feet for the first 100 miles of flight. I think ATC called it a LIMBO route/climb? Not sure.
What would be the reason for this? Heavy traffic above? Never seen or heard it before.
What would be the reason for this? Heavy traffic above? Never seen or heard it before.
Aug 26, 2019, 12:23 pm
#6727
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 8,181
Was on a flight from IAD to IAH last week and was listening to LiveATC while boarding (clearance/ground channel). Almost all the planes were asked if they could maintain 10,000 feet for the first 100 miles of flight. I think ATC called it a LIMBO route/climb? Not sure.
What would be the reason for this? Heavy traffic above? Never seen or heard it before.
What would be the reason for this? Heavy traffic above? Never seen or heard it before.
You either go low now or wait and go high at some indeterminate point in the future. Going low will significantly increase the fuel burn so you have to have Dispatch run new numbers to see if you have enough fuel to do it. If not, you have to decide if it's better to wait for the higher altitude or go back for more fuel. Very difficult to make that decision because you don't have accurate estimates on how long each option will take.
Aug 26, 2019, 2:50 pm
#6728
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In between IAD and DCA
Programs: UA Plat 1.1MM , Marriott Gold Elite, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,262
The Washington Center sectors above were saturated. Low altitude, often approach controls instead of Centers, could accept additional volume but higher sectors could not.
You either go low now or wait and go high at some indeterminate point in the future. Going low will significantly increase the fuel burn so you have to have Dispatch run new numbers to see if you have enough fuel to do it. If not, you have to decide if it's better to wait for the higher altitude or go back for more fuel. Very difficult to make that decision because you don't have accurate estimates on how long each option will take.
You either go low now or wait and go high at some indeterminate point in the future. Going low will significantly increase the fuel burn so you have to have Dispatch run new numbers to see if you have enough fuel to do it. If not, you have to decide if it's better to wait for the higher altitude or go back for more fuel. Very difficult to make that decision because you don't have accurate estimates on how long each option will take.
Aug 26, 2019, 3:18 pm
#6729
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The Washington Center sectors above were saturated. Low altitude, often approach controls instead of Centers, could accept additional volume but higher sectors could not.
You either go low now or wait and go high at some indeterminate point in the future. Going low will significantly increase the fuel burn so you have to have Dispatch run new numbers to see if you have enough fuel to do it. If not, you have to decide if it's better to wait for the higher altitude or go back for more fuel. Very difficult to make that decision because you don't have accurate estimates on how long each option will take.
You either go low now or wait and go high at some indeterminate point in the future. Going low will significantly increase the fuel burn so you have to have Dispatch run new numbers to see if you have enough fuel to do it. If not, you have to decide if it's better to wait for the higher altitude or go back for more fuel. Very difficult to make that decision because you don't have accurate estimates on how long each option will take.
Aug 26, 2019, 5:08 pm
#6730
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
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Posts: 1,609
Hey- do you guys have a key? How do you start those birds? And, if not, did you ever have a key?
Aug 26, 2019, 5:55 pm
#6731
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: In between IAD and DCA
Programs: UA Plat 1.1MM , Marriott Gold Elite, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,262
Aug 26, 2019, 10:14 pm
#6732
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
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Posts: 8,181
Aug 27, 2019, 8:11 am
#6734
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
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Posts: 8,181
Think of all the new threads we'd have, "Flight delayed. Pilot forget plane key! How much compensation?" LOL
We can generally get the preflight done and by on our way in about 25 minutes. Usually do the flight planning (iPad) before arriving at the airplane. If we arrived at a dark airplane and just wanted to start the engines, without the need to fully prepare for a flight, that would take about five minutes.
We can generally get the preflight done and by on our way in about 25 minutes. Usually do the flight planning (iPad) before arriving at the airplane. If we arrived at a dark airplane and just wanted to start the engines, without the need to fully prepare for a flight, that would take about five minutes.
Nov 26, 2019, 9:10 am
#6735
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: PHL
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum, Raddison Platinum, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 5,268
During takeoff, sometimes, we are at a complete stop on the runway and it seems like the pilot is holding down the brake until the engines are revved up very high before he lets go, other times, we don't even come to a full stop and the engines start revving up during the turn onto the runway. Does it make any difference?