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Wiki note about the forum’s several, active “Channel 9” threads.
Offering live ATC communications on UA flights on Chanel 9 of the audio entertainment system (“Channel 9”) is exclusive to United and offered at the Captain’s discretion. This forum has four prime, active threads about Channel 9. This note will guide you to the right thread for your post, or to where you would look for those channel 9 posts you’re interested in.
1) This thread, to discuss interesting things heard on Channel 9, such as interesting exchanges between pilots and controllers or asking about pilot-controller phraseology.
2) A thread – intended as a basic status thread only to list the specific channel 9-equipped flights offering or not offering Channel 9. The thumbs-up/down codes used in the thread are:
^ Channel 9 offered on this flight but no announcement made about it.
^^ Channel 9 offered and crew announced or promoted its availability.
: td : Channel 9 not offered on this flight.
Please postings to status reports of availability -- and use the thread below to discuss the general topic.
Channel 9 availability reports (no discussion)[Consoldidated]
3) A discussion thread to pursue issues about Channel 9 availability. (See the previous paragraph. if you merely wish to list the flights offering or not offering channel 9.)
Consolidated "Channel 9 Availability" Discussion Thread [Merged]
4) A thread to discuss United’s progress in converting legacy Continental aircraft to offer Channel 9.
Anyone get channel 9 on a reconfigured CO or PDE aircraft yet?
The following aircraft types have "From the Flight Deck" installed (commonly known as "Channel 9," as that's the location it is found on audio handset selectors):
sUA 777-200ERs
sCO 777-200ERs
sUA 777-300ERs
sUA 777-200As (high density, first class only)
sUA 767-300ERs
sCO 767-400ERs
sUA 757-200 (28J p.s.)
[sUA A320 and A319 aircraft have had it removed. It is not installed on any 737s, 787s, nor sCO 757-200s (16J p.s.) or sCO 757-300s.]
The Moderators may move misplaced posts to conform to these thread aims.
Archived posts in Consolidated "Channel 9 Availability" Discussion Thread [ARCHIVE]
Offering live ATC communications on UA flights on Chanel 9 of the audio entertainment system (“Channel 9”) is exclusive to United and offered at the Captain’s discretion. This forum has four prime, active threads about Channel 9. This note will guide you to the right thread for your post, or to where you would look for those channel 9 posts you’re interested in.
1) This thread, to discuss interesting things heard on Channel 9, such as interesting exchanges between pilots and controllers or asking about pilot-controller phraseology.
2) A thread – intended as a basic status thread only to list the specific channel 9-equipped flights offering or not offering Channel 9. The thumbs-up/down codes used in the thread are:
^ Channel 9 offered on this flight but no announcement made about it.
^^ Channel 9 offered and crew announced or promoted its availability.
: td : Channel 9 not offered on this flight.
Please postings to status reports of availability -- and use the thread below to discuss the general topic.
Channel 9 availability reports (no discussion)[Consoldidated]
3) A discussion thread to pursue issues about Channel 9 availability. (See the previous paragraph. if you merely wish to list the flights offering or not offering channel 9.)
Consolidated "Channel 9 Availability" Discussion Thread [Merged]
4) A thread to discuss United’s progress in converting legacy Continental aircraft to offer Channel 9.
Anyone get channel 9 on a reconfigured CO or PDE aircraft yet?
The following aircraft types have "From the Flight Deck" installed (commonly known as "Channel 9," as that's the location it is found on audio handset selectors):
sUA 777-200ERs
sCO 777-200ERs
sUA 777-300ERs
sUA 777-200As (high density, first class only)
sUA 767-300ERs
sCO 767-400ERs
sUA 757-200 (28J p.s.)
[sUA A320 and A319 aircraft have had it removed. It is not installed on any 737s, 787s, nor sCO 757-200s (16J p.s.) or sCO 757-300s.]
The Moderators may move misplaced posts to conform to these thread aims.
Archived posts in Consolidated "Channel 9 Availability" Discussion Thread [ARCHIVE]
The Consolidated "Interesting Things Heard on Channel 9" Thread [Merged]
#796
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BOS<>NYC<>BKK
Programs: UA 4.3MM LT-GS; AA1MM; Amtrak SE; MAR LT TITAN; PC Plat; HIL DIA; HYA GLOB
Posts: 4,388
There are some intersting ATC "personalities" heard on UA's Channel 9. That is, controllers who have a distinct style. Here are four of my favorites:
1. A Cleveland en-route controller who greets every aircraft that checks on with "welcome!" For example, "United 578, Cleveland Center, welcome!"
2. A Boston terminal area controller who dispatches every aircraft with "adios!" For example, "United 881, Boston departure, contact center on 119 and a quarter. Adios!"
3. A Boston tower controller who turns over flights to the terminal area controller with a distinct, and pronounced Boston accent. For example, "United 172, contact dePAHTyah on 123.75."
4. And my favorite, a SOCAL terminal area controller who greets flights with, "United 163, thanks for contacting the Hector Sector Vector Director!"
1. A Cleveland en-route controller who greets every aircraft that checks on with "welcome!" For example, "United 578, Cleveland Center, welcome!"
2. A Boston terminal area controller who dispatches every aircraft with "adios!" For example, "United 881, Boston departure, contact center on 119 and a quarter. Adios!"
3. A Boston tower controller who turns over flights to the terminal area controller with a distinct, and pronounced Boston accent. For example, "United 172, contact dePAHTyah on 123.75."
4. And my favorite, a SOCAL terminal area controller who greets flights with, "United 163, thanks for contacting the Hector Sector Vector Director!"
#797
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between SFO & SJC
Programs: UA 1MM (and no longer flying much)
Posts: 777
Crossing the central valley of California, decending towards SFO on 7/24/2010aboard UA 733, I heard Oakland Center clear Boeing 2 up to flight level 40,000. This was followed by a brief discussion regarding maneuvers that the flight would be doing.
Today I got a chance to check flightaware, and sure enough it looks like 787 test flight. Can't wait to be on one of those.
Edit: btw, some of the altitude & speed logs for the test flights look pretty interesting, e.g., http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KBFI/tracklog
Today I got a chance to check flightaware, and sure enough it looks like 787 test flight. Can't wait to be on one of those.
Edit: btw, some of the altitude & speed logs for the test flights look pretty interesting, e.g., http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KBFI/tracklog
#798
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: DL-PM | UA-1K | HH-Gold
Posts: 938
This past Sunday I was on UA2.
When we switched from the Chicago center to ORD Tower, our pilot did the usual intro, "O'Hare Tower this is UA 2 out of x,xxx for x,xxx."
The tower responded, "Aloha UA 2..."
I mean, I'm sure he could have just looked at his screen to see we were coming from HNL, but his response was so quick he's obviously been around a while to know that UA 1 & UA 2 are the ORD-HNL-ORD flights.
When we switched from the Chicago center to ORD Tower, our pilot did the usual intro, "O'Hare Tower this is UA 2 out of x,xxx for x,xxx."
The tower responded, "Aloha UA 2..."
I mean, I'm sure he could have just looked at his screen to see we were coming from HNL, but his response was so quick he's obviously been around a while to know that UA 1 & UA 2 are the ORD-HNL-ORD flights.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Jul 27, 2010 at 8:54 am Reason: unnecessary
#799
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Denver
Posts: 509
Edit: btw, some of the altitude & speed logs for the test flights look pretty interesting, e.g., http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KBFI/tracklog
Anyone know the rate of decent when the "vomit comet" represents a zero-g setting?
#800
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: HPN
Programs: not anymore! I'm FREE!
Posts: 3,459
But a 30,000 foot descent in a minute or two - wow! The Vomit Comment only descends 6 or 7 thousand feet in a similar time.
#801
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: UA 1k Million Miler
Posts: 355
Instrumentation error. Look further down 43K, 10K 30K one minute apart!
#802
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 271
Air Pacific 411, caution heavy wake turblance from large Airbus (380)...
You're a Good Man Charlie Brown, American XXXX is cleared to Jamestown
You're a Good Man Charlie Brown, American XXXX is cleared to Jamestown
#803
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BOS<>NYC<>BKK
Programs: UA 4.3MM LT-GS; AA1MM; Amtrak SE; MAR LT TITAN; PC Plat; HIL DIA; HYA GLOB
Posts: 4,388
This thread is for things "...heard on," in the past tense. But here's something we will soon hear on Ch9 (in the future tense).
As of September 30, instead of "United 888, runway 31, position and hold," we'll hear, "United 888, runway 31, line up and wait."
ICAO got its way with the FAA.
As of September 30, instead of "United 888, runway 31, position and hold," we'll hear, "United 888, runway 31, line up and wait."
ICAO got its way with the FAA.
#804
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near SEA
Programs: UA MM, AS MVPG75K, Marriott Lifetime Gold
Posts: 7,969
This thread is for things "...heard on," in the past tense. But here's something we will soon hear on Ch9 (in the future tense).
As of September 30, instead of "United 888, runway 31, position and hold," we'll hear, "United 888, runway 31, line up and wait."
ICAO got its way with the FAA.
As of September 30, instead of "United 888, runway 31, position and hold," we'll hear, "United 888, runway 31, line up and wait."
ICAO got its way with the FAA.
#805
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Berlin
Programs: LH/BA/DL
Posts: 832
This thread is for things "...heard on," in the past tense. But here's something we will soon hear on Ch9 (in the future tense).
As of September 30, instead of "United 888, runway 31, position and hold," we'll hear, "United 888, runway 31, line up and wait."
ICAO got its way with the FAA.
As of September 30, instead of "United 888, runway 31, position and hold," we'll hear, "United 888, runway 31, line up and wait."
ICAO got its way with the FAA.
Does anyone know if this has actually been a problem?
#806
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SFO, LAX
Programs: AA (ExecPlat.), UA, DL, Hertz (Club Gold), Avis, Hilton (Diamond VIP), Starwood, Marriott
Posts: 374
Sunday, August 15 -- I was on UA 272 from SFO-LAX. We departed on Runway 1L and did the standard left turn to 280 degrees over Daly City and then received our clearance direct to Avenal, which put us on a 130 degree (southeast) heading.
America 1929 was the next departure off of 1L and trailed us the entire way. When we were abeam (approximately) Gilroy, CA, Oakland ATC put us on an 80 degree heading for "3 to 5" minutes for spacing into LA. The female controller gave the same instructions to the AA pilot and he was not happy. He kept peppering her with questions about why the change in heading and how far ahead of him was the next aircraft in the sequence. His tone was quite nasty and condescending. After 3 or 4 questions, she just stopped acknowledging his transmissions. Sure enough, both aircraft were put back on course after 3 minutes or so.
I thought the AA pilot was rude and unprofessional, and I'm glad the UA pilot did not have an attitude.
America 1929 was the next departure off of 1L and trailed us the entire way. When we were abeam (approximately) Gilroy, CA, Oakland ATC put us on an 80 degree heading for "3 to 5" minutes for spacing into LA. The female controller gave the same instructions to the AA pilot and he was not happy. He kept peppering her with questions about why the change in heading and how far ahead of him was the next aircraft in the sequence. His tone was quite nasty and condescending. After 3 or 4 questions, she just stopped acknowledging his transmissions. Sure enough, both aircraft were put back on course after 3 minutes or so.
I thought the AA pilot was rude and unprofessional, and I'm glad the UA pilot did not have an attitude.
#807
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 386
Erroneous hit
On a transcon last night listening to Ch 9. Just after a plane passes under us in opposite direction, ATC goes "UAXXX, erroneous hit alert, please confirm altitude 37,000 feet" or something along those lines. I guess the ATC's system had us at a different altitude and thought we hit a passing plane? Is this commonplace?
#808
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Arlington, VA
Programs: United MP 1p, PC Ambassador, GP Platinum
Posts: 439
Crossing the central valley of California, decending towards SFO on 7/24/2010aboard UA 733, I heard Oakland Center clear Boeing 2 up to flight level 40,000. This was followed by a brief discussion regarding maneuvers that the flight would be doing.
Today I got a chance to check flightaware, and sure enough it looks like 787 test flight. Can't wait to be on one of those.
Edit: btw, some of the altitude & speed logs for the test flights look pretty interesting, e.g., http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KBFI/tracklog
Today I got a chance to check flightaware, and sure enough it looks like 787 test flight. Can't wait to be on one of those.
Edit: btw, some of the altitude & speed logs for the test flights look pretty interesting, e.g., http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KBFI/tracklog
#809
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: PDX
Programs: DL DM, AS MVP 100K, Amtrak peon, Colbert Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 4,534
On the ground at DEN today, controller asked us to hold short for a SkyWest (UX) CRJ and follow it. She said, "Follow the RJ, he'll be following the company 75." Our captain didn't hesitate in responding, "Oh, I didn't know they operated 75s now!"
#810
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: UA 1K, NW forever
Posts: 1,390
Yesterday our flight was delayed 3+ hours due to mechanical and finally left ORD around 11 pm.
Chicago: UA xxx, contact Cleveland on 12x.xx, have a good night.
UA xxx: It's too late for that.
Chicago: UA xxx, contact Cleveland on 12x.xx, have a good night.
UA xxx: It's too late for that.