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Delayed flights
Can anyone tell me why the flights out of MKE to ORD have been delayed 8 of the last 11 days. And it isn't just the last 11 days. This has been going on for a couple of months. I have changed my flight because I had only 2 1/2 hours layover to now almost 6 hours and I am concerned still. A couple delays have been 4+ hours.
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Wasn’t this asked elsewhere? But it’s a 60 mile flight. They’re about as low on the priority list you can get so will be the first to be delayed or canceled. Why not just uber, rent a car, or even Amtrak? Would be much more efficient than that layover.
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Weather
Traffic volume, compounded by construction at ORD ATC staffing restrictions |
There must be a really good motivation to book flights out of MKE with 6 hours connecting time versus booking the same flights out of ORD and finding a different means to get to ORD. If you help us understand what the factors are, you will likely get lots of good advice here.
Just in case --- If you do decide to use your current plans but find your own way to ORD, don't forget that skipping your MKE-ORD flight will automatically cancel the rest of your ticket. If you do elect to fly out of ORD instead of MKE, you'll need to change your ticket, too. |
Originally Posted by rolltribe
(Post 37235039)
Wasn’t this asked elsewhere? But it’s a 60 mile flight. They’re about as low on the priority list you can get so will be the first to be delayed or canceled. Why not just uber, rent a car, or even Amtrak? Would be much more efficient than that layover.
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Originally Posted by dm6214
(Post 37235285)
With our flights it is considerable cheaper to fly out of MKE.
with its Chicago hub and ability to charge a ‘nonstop premium’, UA has good pricing power there. From MKE, you have multiple airlines that can connect you, and no reason, all else being equal, to fly UA vs. AA vs. DL. So price is used as a hook. |
I had a few trips to MKE last year from SFO. Last few trips I started taking the CoachUsa bus from ORD to MKE and vice versa. Was pretty much on time. Inexpensive, and almost always beat the flight if you include layover tome.... Plus I had more flexibility booking sfo ord without
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No one really answered OP -- the real reason is that a landing slot is a landing slot-- and the flights from MKE just don't carry enough passengers to matter that much -- so they are the first to get cancelled when things get constrained -- it's just the reality of air travel today.....
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I seem to recall reports here UA has chartered (not the scheduled service thats going away at ABE & FNL) busses or given vouchers for busses a few times when MKE-ORD-MKE was canceleld.
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Originally Posted by bmwe92fan
(Post 37235582)
No one really answered OP -- the real reason is that a landing slot is a landing slot-- and the flights from MKE just don't carry enough passengers to matter that much -- so they are the first to get cancelled when things get constrained -- it's just the reality of air travel today.....
Close-in airports, like MKE, are subject to an ATC procedure called "Call for Release". When each flight calls to push (or taxi), MKE tower requests a release time for the flight. This happens no matter how good, or bad, the weather might be. At that time, ATC looks at the inbound flow into ORD and assigns a time when there will be space to insert that MKE flight into the flow into ORD on the FYTTE arrival. More distant airports don't have call-for-release. They can be impacted by a ground delay program which is similar in that they also will receive a wheels up, or release, time but the ground delay programs are only implemented when needed. I live in BNA and commute to ORD. BNA is also a call-for-release airport for ORD but, since we are farther away, the impact is usually less as there are more options to flight those flights into the flow on the VEECK arrival. |
How often does MKE get a 737 from ORD?
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While it is probably a low priority flight, isn't there a lot of people connecting? So cancelling it will affect multiple flights
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Originally Posted by UAflyerwhoflystomuch
(Post 37237377)
While it is probably a low priority flight, isn't there a lot of people connecting? So cancelling it will affect multiple flights
They can quickly compare the results of cancelling 2 different flights, using a variety of metrics. Number of misconnects, overall average delayed arrival to destination times (looking at the rebooking options), etc. They can even break it out by M+ status. However, I don't know how coordinated it is with any of the UAX operators, if at all. |
Originally Posted by LarryJ
(Post 37237364)
Well, a 737 for MKE carries as many people as a 737 from SAN. What you say is true for the RJs, of course.
Originally Posted by LarryJ
(Post 37237364)
into the flow on the VEECK arrival.
Originally Posted by goodeats21
(Post 37237384)
However, I don't know how coordinated it is with any of the UAX operators, if at all.
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What does "operates at risk" mean?
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