United's Transpacific Struggles
United is having real difficulty filling flights on many of its routes across the Pacific. Any insight why certain routes are doing so badly? 57% load factor on San Francisco-Sydney in Q1? 59% EWR-HND? 69% SFO-HND? 54% IAD-HND???
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Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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United is having real difficulty filling flights on many of its routes across the Pacific. Any insight why certain routes are doing so badly? 57% load factor on San Francisco-Sydney in Q1? 59% EWR-HND? 69% SFO-HND? 54% IAD-HND???
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A ton of capacity added to the markets this year. It will be adjusted.
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Pacific travel continues to recover not as fast as UA anticipated and grew for? They were still up 44% in revenue vs. Q1 2023, but have grown their ASMs outpacing that demand. The YoY growth would still suggest they're on the right track even if they overshot capacity, especially when compared to EU/domestic YoY growth.
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Originally Posted by jsloan
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… because Q1 is traditionally the slowest travel period of the year?
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Personally, I would enjoy that extra space while it lasts.
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Originally Posted by EWR764
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A ton of capacity added to the markets this year. It will be adjusted.
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Did you just read the crankyflier article?
HND is a problem because the Japanese Yen is extremely weak so there is a lot less Japan originating traffic. Additionally, because it is slot controlled, there is no rationalization of capacity possible. For the South Pacific, AA, DL, and UA all added significant amounts of capacity this past winter and all 3 have suffered. Delta previously planned for year round LAX-AKL and has already cut that to just winter seasonal. BNE has also been offering significant subsidies for international carriers and once that subsidy money dries up then you may see BNE routes getting cut as well. |
Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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What's also interesting is that the flight cap on Chinese airlines' service to the U.S. is currently only a third of what it was pre-pandemic. If UA is struggling to fill aircraft now while not feeling the full competitive effect of mainland carriers in the transpacific market, what happens if/when the cap rises?
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Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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Yet UA's load factors were still significantly lower than those of competitors.
YoY DL grew their pacific ASMs 36% for a 31% growth in passenger revenue and 2% decrease in yield. AA grew their pacific ASMs 54% for a 47% growth in passenger revenue, and 6.5% decrease in yield, with a 4.7% decrease in load factor UA grew their pacific ASMs 65.8% for a 44.3% growth in passenger revenue and 3.5% decrease in yield. Of course the other piece of the story, UA grew their cargo revenue by 16.6% system wide (with multiple sources suggesting a large amount of their cargo activity is TPAC to justify these flights even with lower loads). DL decreased cargo revenue by 15%. AA increased cargo 14.7%. |
Originally Posted by angetenar
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UA's PVG load factor was at 76% which coupled with very high fares is not much cause for concern.
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Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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Yet UA's load factors were still significantly lower than those of competitors.
Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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What's also interesting is that the flight cap on Chinese airlines' service to the U.S. is currently only a third of what it was pre-pandemic. If UA is struggling to fill aircraft now while not feeling the full competitive effect of mainland carriers in the transpacific market, what happens if/when the cap rises?
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Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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Yet UA's load factors were still significantly lower than those of competitors.
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Originally Posted by TravellingChris
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59% EWR-HND? 69% SFO-HND? 54% IAD-HND???
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UA management has not raised transpacific being an issue and I am certain analysts and institutional investors will be all over it if it becomes an issue.
Things may change, but UA is still predicting meeting earning and operational projections for the rest of the year. Others have pointed out in another thread that cargo is doing well on transpac routes. As a consumer, it does not concern me or I worry for UA. I just fly. |
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