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Earning Status (PQP) on non-016 Tickets and Partner Metal {Archive}

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Earning Status (PQP) on non-016 Tickets and Partner Metal {Archive}

Old Oct 30, 2019, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by adcer
Anyone have a FoundersCard membership? I see they claim "up to 15% off" SQ fares in all classes, and if it still books into R this makes things more interesting.

They say you have to book it through their portal so it's tough to tell if this actually works or not.
SQ participates in IAP, too. That's definitely a good way to increase your leverage when earning by distance (and the overall change makes it much less lousy that UA is not an IAP partner).
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Old Oct 30, 2019, 5:31 pm
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Calculating PQP s for Star Alliance flights

I've read all the threads, I think. There is NO way we will qualify on segments: 54 trips!!

Since there is no mileage requirement now, I am thinking of just doing a few F trips, perhaps on Swiss or Singapore to help make the spend of 24 PQPs. How does one calculate the number of PQPs for, say a flight from SFO to ZRH on Swiss in F or C class?

Is it the distance flown, times fare class bonus, divided by 5. Or is it the fare paid ?

I'm confused.

Thanks for anyone's help

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Old Oct 30, 2019, 5:35 pm
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On a UA issued ticket (016 stock) it's fare paid.

On non-016 stock it's direct distance times fare class multiplier divided by 5 or 6 depending on operator.
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Old Oct 31, 2019, 3:31 am
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For non-UA flights on non-016 (i.e. non-UA) ticket, hands down the easiest way to calculate PQP: UA PQP CALC -- created by FT's own nubbeldupp

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Old Oct 31, 2019, 7:41 pm
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Originally Posted by findark
SQ participates in IAP, too. That's definitely a good way to increase your leverage when earning by distance (and the overall change makes it much less lousy that UA is not an IAP partner).
yeah, but I found OTAs to be cheaper than IAP in most cases ... always worth checking ...
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Old Nov 1, 2019, 2:33 pm
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What is the multiplier?

Originally Posted by carlitos
OK, I think I might have found my sweet spot to at least get to *Gold/UA Gold next year with two work tickets.

SQ LAX-SIN-LAX Non-Stop PE (Booking Class R) = 8,770 x 2 = 17,540 Miles for the Round Trip
17,540 X 0.167 (16.7%) PQPs = 2,929 PQPs to my MP Account. Is this correct??? for a $1,000 USD fare

SQ Premium Economy R Fare = $1,000 round trip plus taxes = $1,094 all in (this only matters for my company's fare cap reasons)
I see you are taking the total miles and multiplying by .167? Where does the 167 value come from? Thanks

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Old Nov 1, 2019, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by mmack
I see you are taking the total miles and multiplying by .167? Where does the 167 value come from? Thanks
Mathematical equivalent of dividing by 6, the divisor for a non preferred partner.
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Old Nov 3, 2019, 3:17 pm
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PQP on Partner Airline purchased ticket

Im a bit confused about how 2020 PQPs are calculated if I purchase a ticket directly from Thai Airways which is a Star Alliance Carrier. The rules state the award miles are divided by 5 to calculate the PQP.

if I purchased a J class one way ticket from NRT-BKK on 1/20/2020 it would close 181,780 JPY on the Thai Air website. How many award miles would I earn? How many PQPs would I earn on United? I am a 1K member with United.

thanks for any help you can offer.
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Old Nov 3, 2019, 3:38 pm
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Thai (TG) is not a preferred partner, so PQP earnings would be reduced. 16.67% instead of 20% (divide by 6 instead of 5).

Refer to this thread for additional info: Earning Status (PQP) on non-016 Tickets and Partner Metal

Calculation would be done based on distance, not the fare price.

2,889 miles between Bangkok (BKK) and Tokyo (NRT) x fare class factor / 6 = PQP

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Old Nov 11, 2019, 12:06 am
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PQP Calculation Question

Before I book my ticket, wanted to make sure my math is correct. Looking at booking IAD-YYZ-DEL RT in Business class (deep discount business) on Air Canada website (non-016).

IAD-YYZ-DEL RT = 15048 miles. all business on aircanada earn 200% award miles on UA; therefore, 15048 x 2 = 30,096 award miles.

Since Air Canada is preferred partner, PQPs = 30,096/5 = 6000 PQPs. Am I correct on math? Booking this on United, I'd only earn 3000 PQPs (P fare).

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Old Nov 11, 2019, 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by 1984SW
For non-UA flights on non-016 (i.e. non-UA) ticket, hands down the easiest way to calculate PQP: UA PQP CALC -- created by FT's own Hipplewm.

You overestimate my skillset, I didn't make that website. I however did link it a few times. I have no idea who made it, but kudos to them - not me.

Originally Posted by hokiebuy
Before I book my ticket, wanted to make sure my math is correct. Looking at booking IAD-YYZ-DEL RT in Business class (deep discount business) on Air Canada website (non-016).

IAD-YYZ-DEL RT = 15048 miles. all business on aircanada earn 200% award miles on UA; therefore, 15048 x 2 = 30,096 award miles.

Since Air Canada is preferred partner, PQPs = 30,096/5 = 6000 PQPs. Am I correct on math? Booking this on United, I'd only earn 3000 PQPs (P fare).

Thanks all.
Other than GC mapper lists it as slightly more miles (15,142), your math is correct

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Old Nov 11, 2019, 12:29 am
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Sorry if this has been answered already. If an itinerary on another airline's ticket stock includes segments(s) from a non-Star Alliance carrier, would those non-Star Alliance segments(s) count as PQF (Premier Qualifying Flights) and would the miles flown count for PQP?

For example, on the Air Canada website, searching for Asia to North America, one of the options "includes travel operated by China Airlines" (SkyTeam), and another "includes travel operated by Cathay Pacific" (OneWorld). Clicking "Details" shows the respective carriers' flight numbers, not Air Canada codeshares.

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Old Nov 11, 2019, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by Finalcall
... If an itinerary on another airline's ticket stock includes segments(s) from a non-Star Alliance carrier, would those non-Star Alliance segments(s) count as PQF (Premier Qualifying Flights) and would the miles flown count for PQP? .....
No, only *A operated or MP partner operated flights.
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Thanks WineCountryUA.
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Originally Posted by hokiebuy
Before I book my ticket, wanted to make sure my math is correct. Looking at booking IAD-YYZ-DEL RT in Business class (deep discount business) on Air Canada website (non-016).

IAD-YYZ-DEL RT = 15048 miles. all business on aircanada earn 200% award miles on UA; therefore, 15048 x 2 = 30,096 award miles.

Since Air Canada is preferred partner, PQPs = 30,096/5 = 6000 PQPs. Am I correct on math? Booking this on United, I'd only earn 3000 PQPs (P fare).

Thanks all.
Wow. This is a great find. By "deep discount business ", I am assuming it is around USD2000. 24000 PQPs for $2000 x 4 trips = $8000. That just make you about qualify 1K. Even if it's $3000 per trip, still a bargain.
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