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Impacts on UA from AS 737MAX9 incident / Travel Waiver (FAA grounding of MAX9s)

Impacts on UA from AS 737MAX9 incident / Travel Waiver (FAA grounding of MAX9s)

Old Jan 28, 2024, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by chavala
P.S. Count me as one who doesnt care what Im on as long as I have a good seat.
If the UA pilots are OK w/ the a/c theyre on, Im good with that.
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Old Jan 28, 2024, 6:11 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Are any more operating today 1/28?
You can always check Flight Aware flight tracking broze by aircraft type.
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Old Jan 28, 2024, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by buckeyefanflyer
You can always check Flight Aware flight tracking broze by aircraft type.
Boeing 737 MAX 9 (twin-jet) (B39M) ✈ Aircraft Type - FlightAware
Still a fraction of normal operations
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Old Jan 28, 2024, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by SF_DUKE
Yes it is possible. 1K MM here and I am a non-MAX flyer. No plans to change moving forward.

Takes some flexibility to reschedule flights during equipment swaps. Also means taking connecting flights instead of a non-stop direct flight.
But great for people in search of LT miles. I wonder how many lifetime miler hounds will suddenly discover a visceral aversion to flying a MAX9 and get rerouted on a hub-hop.
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Old Jan 28, 2024, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by chavala
Maybe this is a stupid question I never really paid attention to equipment types but I still dont understand the difference between a 737-900, 737-900ER and a 737 MAX 9.
There have been four generations of 737 aircraft.

The original generation was the 737-100 and 737-200. Very few 737-100s were built but there were a lot of 737-200s. They have all been retired by US airlines though there may still be some flying internationally.

The second generation was called the "Classic". It was the 737-300, 737-400, and 737-500. They had bigger engines than the originals and the very noticable flattening of the front of the engine nacelles. They have also all been retired by US airlines.

The majority of 737s currently flying are part of the third generation called "Next Generation" or NG. The NG line includes the 737-600 (very few made), 737-700, 737-800, and 737-900. The 737-900ER is also an NG. It is a 737-900 with several performance improvements.

The most recent generation is the MAX and includes the 737-8 and 737-9. It will include the 737-7 and 737-10, which are both still in the certification process. The designations are often given as 737 MAX 8, for the 737-8, and the 737 MAX 9, for the 737-9. The 737-8, 737-9, etc. is the official designation of the MAX family 737s. The just-lifted grounding affected only the 737-9 aircraft WITHOUT the extra mid-cabin exit doors installed.

Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
If the UA pilots are OK w/ the a/c theyre on, Im good with that.
I flew two legs today. The first was in a 737-8 and the second was a 737-900ER. I much prefer flying the MAX over the NG airplanes. Much more pleasant to fly.
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Old Jan 28, 2024, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by LarryJ
The majority of 737s currently flying are part of the third generation called "Next Generation" or NG. The NG line includes the 737-600 (very few made), 737-700, 737-800, and 737-900. The 737-900ER is also an NG. It is a 737-900 with several performance improvements.
And crucially, I learned during this mess, the 737-900 was not offered in the ultra-high density configuration and thus had a continuous fuselage with no option for an exit door between the wings and the rear door. Therefore it does not have a door plug. The -900ER and -9 have the same fuselage design, with the option to be delivered either with a door plug and limited to somewhat fewer passengers (the option chosen by all US operators of the -900ER and the -9; a normal domestic configuration with a first class cabin doesnt push the capacity limit without the mid-cabin exit door) or with an exit door (chosen by the likes of Ryanair for an ultra-dense configuration).
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
58 of UA's 9Max are flying today. They are being returned to service pretty fast, it seems.
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by halls120
58 of UA's 9Max are flying today. They are being returned to service pretty fast, it seems.
Not all in the FlightAware report are UA's MAX9s, do you have a better source?
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 4:40 pm
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Is Boeing allowed to continue deliveries of 3M9s at this point, or is the assembly line still undergoing QC checks?
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
Is Boeing allowed to continue deliveries of 3M9s at this point
They just delivered one to China two days ago, and are expecting no impact to their deliveries to India. I haven't found anything about the impact to any other deliveries.
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Not all in the FlightAware report are UA's MAX9s, do you have a better source?
https://public.tableau.com/app/profi...tedFleetStatus
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 6:18 pm
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great site, bookmarked!
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Not all in the FlightAware report are UA's MAX9s, do you have a better source?
Likely the difference is due to FlightAware is showing only those aircraft currently in the air/taxiing.
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Old Jan 29, 2024, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by halls120
58 of UA's 9Max are flying today. They are being returned to service pretty fast, it seems.
And only 15 cancelled flights today (<1%). Amazing how that works!
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Old Jan 30, 2024, 11:33 am
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Apparently I'm not the only one who avoids the MAX (see excerpts below)

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-panel-blowout

‘I would absolutely not fly a Max airplane’: Ex-Boeing manager raises alarm on jets returning to service

Although airlines, regulators and Boeing maintain that the planes are safe after a federally approved inspection and maintenance process, critics argue that serious questions remain about the long-troubled Maxes. The Max 8 had two crashes in 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people.

“I would absolutely not fly a Max airplane,” said Ed Pierson, a former Boeing senior manager. “I’ve worked in the factory where they were built, and I saw the pressure employees were under to rush the planes out the door. I tried to get them to shut down before the first crash.”

*** Jacobsen, the former FAA engineer, said that allowing the planes to fly again was “premature,” noting that he and other safety advocates have been sounding the alarm about numerous safety problems on both the Max 8 and Max 9 for years.

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