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Flying up front:Upgrade fee may be more or less then up-faring/purchase directly,Why?

Old Oct 11, 2023, 4:29 pm
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Why y'all putting this in print so they notice and shut it down??
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Old Oct 11, 2023, 6:43 pm
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Originally Posted by IMissThe747
Why y'all putting this in print so they notice and shut it down??
There would be nothing to shut down. Even if airlines won't allow you to "change", you could always just cancel, rebook, and get to the same results.
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Old Oct 11, 2023, 7:30 pm
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Sounds like plain old legal price discrimination. People who already paid for economy incorrectly view that as sunk cost. So, they see the upgrade offer and think...hey x for first is great.
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Old Oct 11, 2023, 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by AnkSFO
Sounds like plain old legal price discrimination. People who already paid for economy incorrectly view that as sunk cost. So, they see the upgrade offer and think...hey x for first is great.
And/or the economy ticket may have been purchased by someone else, which then would make the proposition to the pax $80 for First (sticker buy-up) or $120 for First (new ticket; ignoring the potential ancillary complexities of swapping ticket).
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Old Oct 11, 2023, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by fumje
And/or the economy ticket may have been purchased by someone else, which then would make the proposition to the pax $80 for First (sticker buy-up) or $120 for First (new ticket; ignoring the potential ancillary complexities of swapping ticket).
This is the factor that most people miss. The online seat upgrade offers do not actually touch the ticket and result in a ticket exchange and refare. For most people, it's probably not a big deal. But there are some people whose corporate travel is purchased through an agency and may also be tracked and any ticket changes need to be handled through the agency. The online seat upgrade offers allow you to upgrade without involving the agency and having to perform a ticket exchange. Another difference is that the online seat upgrade offers allow you to upgrade individual segments on connecting itins that are on a single fare component. If you do an upfare, all segments on the fare component will be upgraded. While it is certainly possible that you can upfare for cheaper than individually upgrading each flight segment together, you may only be interested in upgrading on one segment of the itin.
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Old Oct 12, 2023, 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Dont twist yourself into knots over airline pricing. You did the right thing.

UA is just fishing for suckers. Theres an ocean of them
true unfortunately
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 8:21 am
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Reticketing to Z cheaper than paying for upgrade?

Had a flight in coach to AUS, and UA was asking for $530 to upgrade to first. Called UA and asked to reticket it to first (to ensure I get the PQPs) and they reticketed into Z fare class for $200.

Ive never had a situation where the upgrade cost was so much higher than outright buying a first class fare. Is this a rarity?
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by rotnkornkid
Ive never had a situation where the upgrade cost was so much higher than outright buying a first class fare. Is this a rarity?
It's not uncommon. You should always check before purchasing an upgrade.
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
It's not uncommon. You should always check before purchasing an upgrade.
Agreed. Also, the stated reason for calling to ensure OP got the PQPs is no longer necessary. Youd get the PQPs for the upgrade in fact, since UA gets away with calling it a seating fee instead of airfare, you get 100% of the upgrade fee as PQPs, rather than having to account for taxes. But, yes, there are many reports of upgrades being more expensive than rebooking into F.
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 11:27 am
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This is about 75% of the time for me, including the pop-up upgrade offer at the end of the purchase cycle.
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by PTahCha
This is about 75% of the time for me, including the pop-up upgrade offer at the end of the purchase cycle.
IME is lower but enough to check both. This may vary by route.
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 12:29 pm
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It's frequent enough IME to definitely check. I think I've reticketed to Z (or whatever front cabin inventory was for sale) around 75% of the time this year when considering the cash offer vs. the refare.
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
Agreed. Also, the stated reason for calling to ensure OP got the PQPs is no longer necessary. Youd get the PQPs for the upgrade in fact, since UA gets away with calling it a seating fee instead of airfare, you get 100% of the upgrade fee as PQPs, rather than having to account for taxes. But, yes, there are many reports of upgrades being more expensive than rebooking into F.
I believe you get PQPs but no RDMs on the value of the upgrade. You also dont need to call in, just change flight and you can choose the higher class of service on the same flight/date/time.

Had one on DL recently where the upgrade cost was more than outright buying a new ticket in FC.
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Old Dec 23, 2023, 4:51 pm
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It happens from time to time. Once I even found available PN space and the cost to upfare to a B-fare less than $100... meaning instantly confirmable upgrade for cheap.

Always pays to look.
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Old Dec 24, 2023, 7:49 am
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Do you all just call in and ask what the rate would be? I was thinking you do a mock booking and see what the flight would cost for F, then cancel your ticket for an ETC and use that towards buying another fare, but that seems too complicated and possible for something to go wrong along the way.
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