Two UA planes clip wings at BOS - 3/6

Old Mar 6, 23, 9:06 am
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Two UA planes clip wings at BOS - 3/6

Just saw this posted on Reddit.

It appears one UA 737 was being pushed back and its wingtip clipped the horizontal stabilizer of the other.

I don’t know for sure which flights these were. But notice both the EWR and DEN flights are now canceled. So assume it’s those.

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedairlines/comments/11jzolz/tis_but_a_scratch_kbos_36
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Old Mar 6, 23, 10:57 am
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My friend is on the flight. It's eventually canceled so he missed a meeting in NYC and had to cancel the trip.

Wasted several hours.

Any compensation due?
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Seems like we see this every day or two now on various airlines, not sure what the issue is, wonder what has changed with hiring / training of pilots on the last five years or so.....
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Old Mar 6, 23, 11:41 am
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Every incident like this reminds me of one on a CO Express Beech 1900 flight out of CLE long ago. We're taxiing and the left wing hits the raised mesh liftgate of a mower trailer parket next to the taxiway behind the former D concourse. Paramedics came onboard to interview all of us passengers to make sure we were okay and I think the police also came out on the taxiway to take the pilot awsy.
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Originally Posted by whitethunder
Seems like we see this every day or two now on various airlines, not sure what the issue is, wonder what has changed with hiring / training of pilots on the last five years or so.....
Aside from obtaining a clearance and setting/releasing the parking brake, pilots have zero control of pushback and towing operations.

That’s all ground and ramp staffing.
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Originally Posted by clubord
Aside from obtaining a clearance and setting/releasing the parking brake, pilots have zero control of pushback and towing operations.

That’s all ground and ramp staffing.
Ok so what has changed with ground staff hiring / training the last few years I wonder, again we see these and similar reports every week whereas it was a an absolute rarity in the past, something has changed
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Originally Posted by whitethunder
Ok so what has changed with ground staff hiring / training the last few years I wonder, again we see these and similar reports every week whereas it was a an absolute rarity in the past, something has changed
Well I'd argue it probably has something to with the huge pandemic travel meltdown that resulted in tons of employees leaving the industry.
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Ok so what has changed with ground staff hiring / training the last few years I wonder, again we see these and similar reports every week whereas it was a an absolute rarity in the past, something has changed
Significant turnover and mass retirement of the most experienced segment of the workforce?

These incidents weren’t always newsworthy outside of relatively small circles, either.
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Originally Posted by EWR764
Significant turnover and mass retirement of the most experienced segment of the workforce?

These incidents weren’t always newsworthy outside of relatively small circles, either.
Either these incidents will spin back down to oblivion or someone will use them as a talking point/stalking horse to further some agenda - and then it will get overhyped and ultimately spin back to oblivion.

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Couldn't they just leave a note on the windshield?
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one of the bloggers who we all know looked into the Alaksian problems recently and felt that it has related to a software upgrade on a common tool that is used to improve efficiency - and the error had something to do with miscalculations of weight and the increase need for quick turnover of flights?
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Originally Posted by whitethunder
Ok so what has changed with ground staff hiring / training the last few years I wonder, again we see these and similar reports every week whereas it was a an absolute rarity in the past, something has changed
Its whats plaguing every service industry out there. The pandy loused things up, people left the workforce en masse, and many of those have not returned to work. And those that are working are probably subpar options as opposed to what we had in 2019 and before.
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I flew out of BOS on AS356 today just across from the incident - I got a look at N27269's (B38M BOS-EWR) winglet and it's pretty nasty, though I didn't see much damage to the stabilizer for N36444 (B739 BOS-DEN).
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Originally Posted by JetAirways77W
I flew out of BOS on AS356 today just across from the incident - I got a look at N27269's (B38M BOS-EWR) winglet and it's pretty nasty, though I didn't see much damage to the stabilizer for N36444 (B739 BOS-DEN).
Generally speaking, winglet repairs aren't very time-consuming. Remove the old, replace with new.
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Originally Posted by JetAirways77W
I flew out of BOS on AS356 today just across from the incident - I got a look at N27269's (B38M BOS-EWR) winglet and it's pretty nasty, though I didn't see much damage to the stabilizer for N36444 (B739 BOS-DEN).
Here is another close look.

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