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United and Emirates Expand Market Presence Through New Agreement
September 14, 2022 Operations

United to launch new nonstop flights between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March of 2023;

United customers can soon connect through Dubai to more than 100 destinations and Emirates customers can more easily fly to nearly 200 U.S cities through Chicago, San Francisco and Houston

CHICAGO and DUBAI, Sept. 14, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- United and Emirates announced a historic commercial agreement today that will enhance each airline's network and give their customers easier access to hundreds of destinations within the United States and around the world*.



United will launch a new direct flight between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March 2023 from there, customers can travel on Emirates or its sister airline flydubai to more than 100 different cities. Tickets for United's new Dubai flight are now on sale.

Starting in November, Emirates customers flying into three of the nation's biggest business hubs Chicago, San Francisco and Houston will have access to nearly 200 U.S. cities in the United network most of which only require a one-stop connection. At eight other U.S. airports served by Emirates Boston, Dallas, LA, Miami, JFK, Orlando, Seattle and Washington DC both airlines will have an interline arrangement in place.

United and Emirates announced their agreement today at a ceremonial event at Dulles International Airport, hosted by United CEO Scott Kirby and Emirates President Sir Tim Clark, featuring United and Emirates Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and flight crews from each carrier.

"This agreement unites two iconic, flag carrier airlines who share a common commitment to creating the best customer experience in the skies," said United CEO Scott Kirby. "United's new flight to Dubai and our complementary networks will make global travel easier for millions of our customers, helping boost local economies and strengthen cultural ties. This is a proud moment for both United and Emirates employees, and I look forward to our journey together."

"Two of the biggest, and best-known airlines in the world are joining hands to fly people better to more places, at a time when travel demand is rebounding with a vengeance. It's a significant partnership that will unlock tremendous consumer benefit and bring the United Arab Emirates and the United States even closer," said Sir Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline. "We welcome United's return to Dubai next year, where our hub Dubai essentially becomes a gateway for United to reach Asia, Africa and the Middle East via the combined network of Emirates and flydubai. We look forward to developing our partnership with United for the long term."

Soon customers of both airlines can book these connecting flights on a single ticket making check-in and luggage transfer faster and easier. For example travelers will be able to visit United.com or use the United app to book a flight from Newark/New York to Karachi, Pakistan or go to Emirates.com to book a flight from Dubai to Atlanta or Honolulu.

This agreement will also give the loyalty program members of both airlines more opportunities for more rewards: United MileagePlus members flying on United's Newark/New York to Dubai flight can soon earn and redeem miles when connecting beyond on Emirates and flydubai and Emirates Skywards members will be able to earn miles when they travel on United operated flights. Eligible United customers will also soon have access to Emirates lounges when connecting to and from United's new Dubai flight.

Both airlines have recently announced significant investments in the customer experience. Emirates will retrofit more than 120 aircraft as part of a $2 billion effort that includes elevated meal choices, a brand-new vegan menu, a 'cinema in the sky' experience, cabin interior upgrades, and sustainable choices. At United, the airline will add 500 new Boeing and Airbus aircraft to its fleet with a focus on a new signature interior that includes seat-back screens in every seat, larger overhead bins, Bluetooth connectivity throughout, and the industry's fastest available in-flight WiFi.

* Codeshare activities and United's new flight to Dubai are subject to government approvals.

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United + Emirates to Form Codeshare Agreement & UA resumes EWR-DXB March 2023

Old Aug 30, 22, 7:13 pm
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For sure EK will be the winner out of this JV
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Old Aug 30, 22, 7:20 pm
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As a UK based 1k, I'm very excited by this. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
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Old Aug 30, 22, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by pseudoswede View Post
I wonder what destinations EK offers that LH and TK don't already cover.
Quite a few secondary points from Africa to South Asia are served by EK but not LH/TK.

Arguably having partnerships with AC and UA means they don't need to join *A but gain many of the benefits. Or perhaps they do plan to join *A? Time will tell.
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Old Aug 30, 22, 7:49 pm
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Is there any reason to expect this would coincide with new routes? Seems not likely?
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Old Aug 30, 22, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by fumje View Post
Is there any reason to expect this would coincide with new routes? Seems not likely?
Depending on what exactly this covers, Emirates adding DXB-DEN and UA adding EWR-DXB are reasonable guesses.
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Old Aug 30, 22, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
Didnt UA and EK have something a long time ago?
I still have an old UA timetable from 2000, which I took out of storage for use in a recent thread, so I scanned a couple more pages from it showing UA and EK's small codeshare agreement that amounted to only MP mileage accrual, and no mileage redemption on EK. UA codeshared only one EK route, DXB-LHR. This was just before EK's big A380 purchase that totally transformed it into a global carrier, so the partnership was likely lopsided with EK acting as a regional carrier feeding some traffic to UA. I don't know when this codeshare agreement ended, but I don't remember it ever getting significantly bigger, if at all.


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Old Aug 30, 22, 8:40 pm
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Some folks on airliners.net are reporting that Emirates is also terminating its codeshare agreement with JetBlue
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Old Aug 30, 22, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer View Post
For sure EK will be the winner out of this JV
Where was a JV reported or rumored?
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Old Aug 30, 22, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by pseudoswede View Post
I wonder what destinations EK offers that LH and TK don't already cover.
Not an exact answer to your question, but as far as routes go, direct service to DXB from ~7 US cities, which neither LH nor TK offer.

I wonder if this will also mean that EK premium-cabin passengers will be able to use Polaris lounges when departing from an airport that has one. Currently, at IAH for example, they have to use that ridiculous Executive Club lounge in Terminal D.
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Old Aug 30, 22, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
Didnt UA and EK have something a long time ago?

EK is hugely popular with folks traveling to/from India. Not sure how else it helps UA with network reach though.
yes, definitely. I remember my wife booking UA/EK itinerary via UA from probably CVG-IAD- DXB-MAA with the last segment on EK. I cant remember if she got miles for that last segment, but definitely not PQ-anything. On the return, UA op-ups her ex-DXB (she told me she was initially upset they gave her a BP with a new seat at the gate, as she didnt realize initially it was an upgrade - she was only a silver at the time, after all).

i also had that same sort of itinerary booked once, but had to cancel the trip.

EK definitely would give access to many secondary India markets that dont have non-stops from the US or even EU - HYD, Kochi, etc.
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Old Aug 31, 22, 1:54 am
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Originally Posted by angetenar View Post
Some folks on airliners.net are reporting that Emirates is also terminating its codeshare agreement with JetBlue
That was my first thought, and to a lesser extent, Alaska.

Yes, there's the usual disclaimer that airlines still do partner with carriers outside their alliances (DL owns half of VS, and they're JV partners, but VS is NOT in Skyteam for example). However, I have to think EK isn't going to look kindly at B6 cozying up to AA, which flows passengers onto EK's arch-nemesis through Doha. EK's JFK operation isn't going anywhere regardless.

Also I think Russia plays into UA's needs here more than a little bit. We are probably looking at no Russian overflights now extending years rather than months. What better way to get your passengers to the Indian subcontinent than with your new partner via their massive middle-east hub?
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Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer View Post
That was my first thought, and to a lesser extent, Alaska.

Yes, there's the usual disclaimer that airlines still do partner with carriers outside their alliances (DL owns half of VS, and they're JV partners, but VS is NOT in Skyteam for example). However, I have to think EK isn't going to look kindly at B6 cozying up to AA, which flows passengers onto EK's arch-nemesis through Doha. EK's JFK operation isn't going anywhere regardless.

Also I think Russia plays into UA's needs here more than a little bit. We are probably looking at no Russian overflights now extending years rather than months. What better way to get your passengers to the Indian subcontinent than with your new partner via their massive middle-east hub?
The last paragraph makes a lots of sense....
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Originally Posted by NeoOfTheCRS View Post
In the past, Emirates has cast so much shade on alliances. Not sure what they'd get out of it.
Industry-rocking pandemics make for strange bedfellows. IMO, EK's current US partners provide quite weak connectivity as well--B6 has no premium cabin where it really matters (NYC<->SFO/LAX is really only useful for EK's 5th freedom routes to NYC), and AS with has a pretty limited route network.

Originally Posted by prestonh View Post
Where was a JV reported or rumored?
It seems pretty unlikely to me that the DOJ would approve a proper fully-immunized joint venture, but I guess stranger things have happened.

I'd expect at the very least it'll be possible to earn MileagePlus miles for at least a subset of EK flights, and honestly that would make me super happy. Being able to burn MileagePlus Miles on EK flights would be a nice bonus too.
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Sept 14th, hope their are award flights, would LOVE to rebook my F1, World Cup flights to AUH and DOH so I don't need to go through CAI.
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Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer View Post
That was my first thought, and to a lesser extent, Alaska.

Yes, there's the usual disclaimer that airlines still do partner with carriers outside their alliances (DL owns half of VS, and they're JV partners, but VS is NOT in Skyteam for example). However, I have to think EK isn't going to look kindly at B6 cozying up to AA, which flows passengers onto EK's arch-nemesis through Doha. EK's JFK operation isn't going anywhere regardless.

Also I think Russia plays into UA's needs here more than a little bit. We are probably looking at no Russian overflights now extending years rather than months. What better way to get your passengers to the Indian subcontinent than with your new partner via their massive middle-east hub?
And Southern Africa
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