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UA164 EWR 10:15 PM DXB 7:40 PM next day 772 13 hrs 25 mins Daily (except Sunday 26 March) starting 25 March 2023
UA163 DXB 2:15 AM EWR 9:05 AM 772 14 hrs 50 mins Daily Starting 28 March 2023
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UA163 DXB 2:15 AM EWR 9:05 AM 772 14 hrs 50 mins Daily Starting 28 March 2023
United and Emirates Expand Market Presence Through New Agreement
September 14, 2022 Operations
United to launch new nonstop flights between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March of 2023;
United customers can soon connect through Dubai to more than 100 destinations and Emirates customers can more easily fly to nearly 200 U.S cities through Chicago, San Francisco and Houston
CHICAGO and DUBAI, Sept. 14, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- United and Emirates announced a historic commercial agreement today that will enhance each airline's network and give their customers easier access to hundreds of destinations within the United States and around the world*.
United will launch a new direct flight between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March 2023 – from there, customers can travel on Emirates or its sister airline flydubai to more than 100 different cities. Tickets for United's new Dubai flight are now on sale.
Starting in November, Emirates customers flying into three of the nation's biggest business hubs – Chicago, San Francisco and Houston – will have access to nearly 200 U.S. cities in the United network – most of which only require a one-stop connection. At eight other U.S. airports served by Emirates – Boston, Dallas, LA, Miami, JFK, Orlando, Seattle and Washington DC – both airlines will have an interline arrangement in place.
United and Emirates announced their agreement today at a ceremonial event at Dulles International Airport, hosted by United CEO Scott Kirby and Emirates President Sir Tim Clark, featuring United and Emirates Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and flight crews from each carrier.
"This agreement unites two iconic, flag carrier airlines who share a common commitment to creating the best customer experience in the skies," said United CEO Scott Kirby. "United's new flight to Dubai and our complementary networks will make global travel easier for millions of our customers, helping boost local economies and strengthen cultural ties. This is a proud moment for both United and Emirates employees, and I look forward to our journey together."
"Two of the biggest, and best-known airlines in the world are joining hands to fly people better to more places, at a time when travel demand is rebounding with a vengeance. It's a significant partnership that will unlock tremendous consumer benefit and bring the United Arab Emirates and the United States even closer," said Sir Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline. "We welcome United's return to Dubai next year, where our hub Dubai essentially becomes a gateway for United to reach Asia, Africa and the Middle East via the combined network of Emirates and flydubai. We look forward to developing our partnership with United for the long term."
Soon customers of both airlines can book these connecting flights on a single ticket – making check-in and luggage transfer faster and easier. For example – travelers will be able to visit United.com or use the United app to book a flight from Newark/New York to Karachi, Pakistan or go to Emirates.com to book a flight from Dubai to Atlanta or Honolulu.
This agreement will also give the loyalty program members of both airlines more opportunities for more rewards: United MileagePlus® members flying on United's Newark/New York to Dubai flight can soon earn and redeem miles when connecting beyond on Emirates and flydubai and Emirates Skywards members will be able to earn miles when they travel on United operated flights. Eligible United customers will also soon have access to Emirates lounges when connecting to and from United's new Dubai flight.
Both airlines have recently announced significant investments in the customer experience. Emirates will retrofit more than 120 aircraft as part of a $2 billion effort that includes elevated meal choices, a brand-new vegan menu, a 'cinema in the sky' experience, cabin interior upgrades, and sustainable choices. At United, the airline will add 500 new Boeing and Airbus aircraft to its fleet with a focus on a new signature interior that includes seat-back screens in every seat, larger overhead bins, Bluetooth connectivity throughout, and the industry's fastest available in-flight WiFi.
* Codeshare activities and United's new flight to Dubai are subject to government approvals.
September 14, 2022 Operations
United to launch new nonstop flights between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March of 2023;
United customers can soon connect through Dubai to more than 100 destinations and Emirates customers can more easily fly to nearly 200 U.S cities through Chicago, San Francisco and Houston
CHICAGO and DUBAI, Sept. 14, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- United and Emirates announced a historic commercial agreement today that will enhance each airline's network and give their customers easier access to hundreds of destinations within the United States and around the world*.
United will launch a new direct flight between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March 2023 – from there, customers can travel on Emirates or its sister airline flydubai to more than 100 different cities. Tickets for United's new Dubai flight are now on sale.
Starting in November, Emirates customers flying into three of the nation's biggest business hubs – Chicago, San Francisco and Houston – will have access to nearly 200 U.S. cities in the United network – most of which only require a one-stop connection. At eight other U.S. airports served by Emirates – Boston, Dallas, LA, Miami, JFK, Orlando, Seattle and Washington DC – both airlines will have an interline arrangement in place.
United and Emirates announced their agreement today at a ceremonial event at Dulles International Airport, hosted by United CEO Scott Kirby and Emirates President Sir Tim Clark, featuring United and Emirates Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and flight crews from each carrier.
"This agreement unites two iconic, flag carrier airlines who share a common commitment to creating the best customer experience in the skies," said United CEO Scott Kirby. "United's new flight to Dubai and our complementary networks will make global travel easier for millions of our customers, helping boost local economies and strengthen cultural ties. This is a proud moment for both United and Emirates employees, and I look forward to our journey together."
"Two of the biggest, and best-known airlines in the world are joining hands to fly people better to more places, at a time when travel demand is rebounding with a vengeance. It's a significant partnership that will unlock tremendous consumer benefit and bring the United Arab Emirates and the United States even closer," said Sir Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline. "We welcome United's return to Dubai next year, where our hub Dubai essentially becomes a gateway for United to reach Asia, Africa and the Middle East via the combined network of Emirates and flydubai. We look forward to developing our partnership with United for the long term."
Soon customers of both airlines can book these connecting flights on a single ticket – making check-in and luggage transfer faster and easier. For example – travelers will be able to visit United.com or use the United app to book a flight from Newark/New York to Karachi, Pakistan or go to Emirates.com to book a flight from Dubai to Atlanta or Honolulu.
This agreement will also give the loyalty program members of both airlines more opportunities for more rewards: United MileagePlus® members flying on United's Newark/New York to Dubai flight can soon earn and redeem miles when connecting beyond on Emirates and flydubai and Emirates Skywards members will be able to earn miles when they travel on United operated flights. Eligible United customers will also soon have access to Emirates lounges when connecting to and from United's new Dubai flight.
Both airlines have recently announced significant investments in the customer experience. Emirates will retrofit more than 120 aircraft as part of a $2 billion effort that includes elevated meal choices, a brand-new vegan menu, a 'cinema in the sky' experience, cabin interior upgrades, and sustainable choices. At United, the airline will add 500 new Boeing and Airbus aircraft to its fleet with a focus on a new signature interior that includes seat-back screens in every seat, larger overhead bins, Bluetooth connectivity throughout, and the industry's fastest available in-flight WiFi.
* Codeshare activities and United's new flight to Dubai are subject to government approvals.
Emirates Business Class Lounge
Location: Terminal 3, Concourse A and Concourse B
Eligibility
Location: Terminal 3, Concourse A and Concourse B
Eligibility
- United Polaris® business class customers
Consolidated DXB connections / Emirates (EK) codeshares / logistics / lounges / ....
Jan 20, 2023, 9:22 am
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I'm still confused by this even having read many of the articles (although not all 12 pages of this thread).
- Are Emirates flights currently able to earn UA EQM (or whatever they are called now)?
- If not now, will they be in the spring when the codeshares begin?
- Will the EQM only be on the codeshares? I.E. Only for EWR-DXB and not IAD-DXB?
Jan 20, 2023, 9:25 am
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I'm still confused by this even having read many of the articles (although not all 12 pages of this thread).
- Are Emirates flights currently able to earn UA EQM (or whatever they are called now)?
- If not now, will they be in the spring when the codeshares begin?
- Will the EQM only be on the codeshares? I.E. Only for EWR-DXB and not IAD-DXB?
Jan 20, 2023, 9:42 am
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I'm still confused by this even having read many of the articles (although not all 12 pages of this thread).
- Are Emirates flights currently able to earn UA EQM (or whatever they are called now)?
- If not now, will they be in the spring when the codeshares begin?
- Will the EQM only be on the codeshares? I.E. Only for EWR-DXB and not IAD-DXB?
Maybe.
Too soon to tell -- but it's not EWR-DXB that would be codeshared; it'd be flights like DXB-BKK (and possibly IAD-DXB). EWR-DXB is just a regular UA flight. But, yes, there is a possibility that the flights might earn UA credit only if they have a UA code.
Jan 20, 2023, 10:07 am
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I'm still confused by this even having read many of the articles (although not all 12 pages of this thread).
- Are Emirates flights currently able to earn UA EQM (or whatever they are called now)?
- If not now, will they be in the spring when the codeshares begin?
- Will the EQM only be on the codeshares? I.E. Only for EWR-DXB and not IAD-DXB?
Jan 20, 2023, 10:18 am
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1. Given a choice between UA and EK for NYC-DXB, would never choose UA due to significantly inferior product. Result: no interest.
2. Acknowledge EK's much better product, but have an aversion to ME carriers for various reasons. Result: no interest.
Mar 3, 2023, 8:04 am
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Mar 4, 2023, 12:32 pm
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Mar 4, 2023, 5:18 pm
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Few interesting points:
1. JetBlue's response to the filing:
Responsive Pleadings: JetBlue filed an answer to the application stating that it does not object to the authority
sought by United and Emirates, but JetBlue states that it seeks to highlight difficulties it has experienced
securing code-share approval from the Government of India. JetBlue states that the United-Emirates application
involves code sharing on itineraries that are structurally identical to the code sharing JetBlue seeks to engage in
to/from India via third-countries (including the UAE). JetBlue requests that DOT, as it adjudicates this
application, explicitly clarify that the code-sharing authorization sought by United and Emirates is permitted
under the U.S.-India Open-Skies Agreement (in addition to the U.S.-UAE Open-Skies Agreement) and that any
denial of code-sharing authorizations by the Indian Government would be inconsistent with the U.S.-India
Open-Skies Agreement.
They're clearly trying to do a code share deal with Indian airlines, but AI has convinced the Indian govt to block them -- even though AI is no longer govt owned.
2. UA's codeshares will be limited to a narrow list of 27 cities (below).
With the exception of a few Indian cities (BOM/BLR), it's a bunch of cities in Africa, ME, and AUS, that UA won't fly to anytime soon.
There will be no code sharing leveraging Emirate's extensive network to Europe or Asia.
3. Emirates will have access to nearly 300 cities out of UA's three hubs in ORD, IAH, and SFO.
Interesting how EWR, IAD, and DEN are excluded (except for flights from ORD, IAH, SFO).
Last edited by spartacusmcfly; Mar 26, 2023 at 11:32 pm
Mar 6, 2023, 8:31 pm
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Are any of the emirates metal mileage earning for UMP?
Mar 6, 2023, 8:41 pm
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Not so far, no.
Mar 6, 2023, 9:13 pm
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2. UA is forcing you to take EWR-DXB on UA metal.
3. If you're going Denver to Maldives, DEN-EWR and EWR-DXB will have to be on UA metal to qualify for PQP. DXB-MLE can be on Emirates.
Mar 6, 2023, 11:55 pm
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But, yes, if you fly UA metal, you'll earn PQP on those segments only.