Last edit by: limey1K
2023 GS Invitation spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/2h6bhm4m - PLEASE ONLY ADD UAL PQP TO THE SPREADSHEET UNDER 2022 PQP
Please enter as much data as you have available for prior years too.
Please enter as much data as you have available for prior years too.
Here are links to spreadsheets from years past. Unfortunately I was not able to find the links for 2019, 2021 and 2022. If anyone has them, please post. This might be useful to look back at historical spends needed to qualify for GS:
- 2015 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=169284546
- 2016 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8TM/edit#gid=0
- 2017 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...FUU/edit#gid=0
- 2018 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
- 2019
- 2020 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t#gid=71707894
- 2021
- 2022
- 2023 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sC4/edit#gid=0
Here is my link for 2019
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1926936637
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1926936637
GS 2023 Qualifications …. Any guesses?
#62
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GS is only good if you are flying. It is worthless on the ground.
#63
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Houston TX
Programs: United Premier 1k, Hertz Presidents Circle, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 408
With the price of long haul J going up dramatically I wouldn't be surprised if the minimums went up. I could realistically see new qualifications be in the mid 60s with requals lower at 50. I would also assume UA may gift GS one more year to previous long term GS as they don't want to lose that business.
#64
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: IAH & CMH
Programs: UA GS, UA MM, Marriott Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Uber Platinum :)
Posts: 773
With the price of long haul J going up dramatically I wouldn't be surprised if the minimums went up. I could realistically see new qualifications be in the mid 60s with requals lower at 50. I would also assume UA may gift GS one more year to previous long term GS as they don't want to lose that business.
Personally I'm just hoping for new baggage tags (!) as I'm tired of seeing "2020 - Denver" hanging off my bag. Just bizarre that they did that for GS's (rotating cities on GS baggage tags, regardless of where you are actually based) - hopefully it's a standard 2023 GS bag tag with no city designator. But I'm probably dreaming about getting anything!
#65
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: UA GS, UA 2MM, HH LT Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 1,803
INTL: While prices did go up mid summer, that's not the case for the entire year. If you figure the first 3 months were pretty light loads due to Omnicron / countries not opening up, and in Q2 prices were quite competitive - I paid $5K RT business for multiple flights to UK and Portugal when in the past the fares would be $7K+, I doubt there's been enough spend in the last 4 months to result in an uptick in qualification threshold to the mid 60's. My guess would be 45-50 range, but we won't know until the invites go out Late December/January.
Personally I'm just hoping for new baggage tags (!) as I'm tired of seeing "2020 - Denver" hanging off my bag. Just bizarre that they did that for GS's (rotating cities on GS baggage tags, regardless of where you are actually based) - hopefully it's a standard 2023 GS bag tag with no city designator. But I'm probably dreaming about getting anything!
Personally I'm just hoping for new baggage tags (!) as I'm tired of seeing "2020 - Denver" hanging off my bag. Just bizarre that they did that for GS's (rotating cities on GS baggage tags, regardless of where you are actually based) - hopefully it's a standard 2023 GS bag tag with no city designator. But I'm probably dreaming about getting anything!
#66
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,116
I was a $70-80k a year flyer mostly to Asia. That hasn’t come back yet and won’t for a bit.
I do domestic flying as well- often paid first but unlike pre covid when I was flying to LAX/SFO all the time I’m flying to other cities with relatively cheap paid up front fares (600-700 round trip).
I had 1 Europe business class paid this year. I’ll Spend about $12k this year.
next year I have 5 Europe trips before July all in paid first. Haven’t booked yet. If I maintain GS I’ll do them on UA if not I’ll check out other carriers and spread the money around.
im not hopeful that UA will play the long game here and more likely to be short sighted.
#67
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: IAH & CMH
Programs: UA GS, UA MM, Marriott Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Uber Platinum :)
Posts: 773
or go via Panama on Copa for 1/3 price (no lie flat though)
#68
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: UA GS, UA 2MM, HH LT Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 1,803
AA wants $11,380 and 25 hours to get there from DEN
#69
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: texas
Programs: ua gs, bonvoy platinum, hyatt explorist
Posts: 16
IAH based, Will end the year at ~$42k PQP. Very concerned I won't get the nod.
2021 = 24k PQP
2020 = 25k PQP
2019 = 70k PQP
2018 = 67k PQP
2021 = 24k PQP
2020 = 25k PQP
2019 = 70k PQP
2018 = 67k PQP
#70
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DEN
Posts: 60
I was recently looking at DEN-EZE in early Jan and also saw the stupid prices. As soon as I took off the den-Iah leg it came back down to earth…maybe the same for your needs….?
#71
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#72
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: texas
Programs: ua gs, bonvoy platinum, hyatt explorist
Posts: 16
Yep. Even with the challenge, without China it's going to be tough.
#73
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX/TPE
Programs: United 1K, JAL Sapphire, SPG Lifetime Platinum, National Executive Elite, Hertz PC, Avis PC
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I still suspect 24K PQP will be the new 2023 requirement for 1K, but not yet announced - it would be interesting to see if they give you GS or challenge you based on your prior year numbers as that might offer a hint about what's to come for the rest of the tiers.
#74
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY
Programs: UA GS & 3MM, HHONORS Diamond
Posts: 66
My main use for PP is T-72 hours when I will try to push an upgrade when 3 unsold seats are left. To me that is the best GS benefit.
I don't generally bother to use PP ahead of T-72 because, as has been mentioned many times, they do not clear, and if you get a battlefield upgrade the points are deducted even though you may not have needed to use the PP (although maybe the PP gets you #1 when there are other GS on the list who did not use PP). I also have had better luck keeping the PP-upgrade (when I get it) in case of taking an earlier flight at the gate, but no guarantees and it depends on the gate agent (had a great experience at IND last month).
I don't generally bother to use PP ahead of T-72 because, as has been mentioned many times, they do not clear, and if you get a battlefield upgrade the points are deducted even though you may not have needed to use the PP (although maybe the PP gets you #1 when there are other GS on the list who did not use PP). I also have had better luck keeping the PP-upgrade (when I get it) in case of taking an earlier flight at the gate, but no guarantees and it depends on the gate agent (had a great experience at IND last month).
#75
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 1,394
Sorry to be slightly OT here, but can't find any better thread for this quickly... assume booking Premium Plus "counts" towards GS requalification just as much as booking business or full fare does...but does anyone have any insight into that?
Thanks
Thanks