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Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34406681)
Being Silver definitely has its advantages. I think this is the lowest level that will permit me to premier check-in? Possible to get that from a CC?
Status with Avis and Budget, too. A non-trivial set of perks that make travelling less stressful. |
Originally Posted by VegasGambler
(Post 34327206)
On most airlines it takes some time for status to properly make it through the system, especially on existing reservations.
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Originally Posted by 8MiHi
(Post 34410411)
Premier check-in, Priority baggage handling, Priority screening (get TSA pre-check regardless), BG 2 like many CCs, Preferred seating for 8 at reservation and E+ for you plus 1 at check-in.
Status with Avis and Budget, too. A non-trivial set of perks that make travelling less stressful. I just did a quick search and it seems like the Chase UA Visa Infinite offers premier benefits! Does it offer all Premier benefits that a Silver gets? What advantages does UA Silver provide that I can't get from the Chase UA Visa Infinite? |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34410803)
What is BG 2?
I just did a quick search and it seems like the Chase UA Visa Infinite offers premier benefits! Does it offer all Premier benefits that a Silver gets? What advantages does UA Silver provide that I can't get from the Chase UA Visa Infinite? I have the Chase UA Explorer card which gives me BG2 and one free checked luggage, if I did not have premier silver and above. Chase Infinity VISA: https://www.chase.com/personal/credi...ravel-benefits |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34410803)
What is BG 2?
I just did a quick search and it seems like the Chase UA Visa Infinite offers premier benefits! Does it offer all Premier benefits that a Silver gets? What advantages does UA Silver provide that I can't get from the Chase UA Visa Infinite? |
Also get a bonus 25% miles on certain non-UA *A tickets. Discounted PE/J fares on other alliance carriers can have massive RDM/$ earnings.
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Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 34411035)
E+ seating at check-in. A theoretical possibility of upgrades. 7 MileagePlus miles per dollar spent, instead of 5.
So that's the only difference? Damn, I don't think it's that big. I had a little exchange with another person about UA seats. Don't get me wrong, I'll take E+ if I can get it for free, but being a smaller guy than some of our fellow FT members, I don't value the difference as much. For me, where the upgrade becomes a night and day difference is going from Y to a lie-flat. If the Chase UA VI gives most of the benefits such as premier check-in, I would argue Silver isn't even worth it considering what's required to get it. The card even provides UC access. I guess the final thing is how UCs handle CC holders when the club is full. I think I read some UCs decline the one time passes from time to time. I wonder if they'll decline access with the Chase UA VI during peak hours when the UCs are likely to be busy and full? I stopped caring about UA miles since they went dynamic like DL.
Originally Posted by Merolis
(Post 34411417)
Also get a bonus 25% miles on certain non-UA *A tickets. Discounted PE/J fares on other alliance carriers can have massive RDM/$ earnings.
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Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411418)
Can you expand on that and be specific?
If you fly PE or J cheaply across an ocean, you can get higher elite earnings by flying other airlines on their tickets. Non-016 tickets use distance only to determine earnings, and while they have capped the PQP earnings to stop some excessively high rates like (3-4 PQP/$), the RDM is still (Distance X Fare) + Bonus. If the ticket in PE/J is in a deeply discounted fare bucket, its very likely that flying NON-UA metal, NON-UA tickets you will earn more. You do lose the benefits of lifetime mileage, and UA silver. (But PE/J typically has better benefits) Most PE/J tickets will earn 100-150% of distance flown in UA miles. As a silver you get an extra 1.25x on top. *The bonus is only on RDM, it does not increase PQP/PQF credit. |
Originally Posted by lsquare (Post # 33)
(Post 34410803)
What advantages does UA Silver provide that I can't get from the Chase UA Visa Infinite?
Originally Posted by jsloan (Post # 35)
(Post 34411035)
E+ seating at check-in. A theoretical possibility of upgrades. 7 MileagePlus miles per dollar spent, instead of 5.
Originally Posted by Merolis (Post # 36)
(Post 34411417)
Also get a bonus 25% miles on certain non-UA *A tickets. Discounted PE/J fares on other alliance carriers can have massive RDM/$ earnings.
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Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411418)
So that's the only difference?
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411418)
Damn, I don't think it's that big. I had a little exchange with another person about UA seats. Don't get me wrong, I'll take E+ if I can get it for free, but being a smaller guy than some of our fellow FT members, I don't value the difference as much.
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411418)
For me, where the upgrade becomes a night and day difference is going from Y to a lie-flat.
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411418)
If the Chase UA VI gives most of the benefits such as premier check-in, I would argue Silver isn't even worth it considering what's required to get it. The card even provides UC access. I guess the final thing is how UCs handle CC holders when the club is full. I think I read some UCs decline the one time passes from time to time. I wonder if they'll decline access with the Chase UA VI during peak hours when the UCs are likely to be busy and full?
I tend to agree that Silver isn’t worth targeting specifically. If your flying patterns are such that you’ll make Silver, so be it. If not, I wouldn’t spend a lot of extra money to reach it. Then again, if you’re not flying enough to reach Silver, I don’t see a ton of value in Club membership either. You can buy Premier Access on most flights as an a la carte item, and if you’re going to fly with two bags often enough for it to be worthwhile, you can buy a baggage subscription — but, again, you’d have to fly enough to justify the subscription but not enough to where you get a substantial savings from reaching status. I consider GS, 1K, and Gold the three most meaningful status levels. You may not care about E+ at booking, which is the primary Gold benefit, but it also includes the two bags, plus Star Alliance Gold, meaning lounge entry on international itineraries. Platinum isn’t a huge upgrade from Gold (although it’s better than it used to be). 1K is the next sweet spot because of the number of PlusPoints you get — if you can use them. And GS has a massive set of perks but requires 4MM lifetime miles or a very large annual spend.
Originally Posted by Merolis
(Post 34411461)
Most PE/J tickets will earn 100-150% of distance flown in UA miles. As a silver you get an extra 1.25x on top.
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jsloan has a good point. The bonus is only on -
"Flights ticketed and operated by select MileagePlus partner airlines, including Air Canada, ANA, Austrian, Azul, Brussels, Lufthansa and SWISS" Bonus is an additional 25% for silver, 50% gold, 75% Plat, and 100% 1K/GS in UA miles. |
Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
(Post 34411734)
Don't forget the Priority Bag tags (which have worked for me), the increasingly elusive Premier Access lanes, and as noted elsewhere, TSA Pre-✔️.
Silver, DL Diamond, and a OneWorld Sapphire. TLDR, I found DL to be the best. Chase UA VI said it comes with premier benefits. So doesn't that come with priority bag, which UA Silver seems to give? I'm pretty sure my bag got that tag when I was flying UA to Singapore.
Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 34411742)
You’d also get Premier phone support, bypassing the primary queue when you have to call UA.
You can also select a Preferred seat at booking as a Silver, so if you care about window / aisle, but you don’t care about E+, that could be valuable. Personally, the difference between E- and E+ is big enough that I always include it in my calculations, because I’d buy it on any other carrier where it’s offered, except for the very shortest flights (< 1:15 or so). Obviously, YMMV. Silver offers little meaningful benefit in achieving upgrades to a lie-flat seat. The Club credit card comes with an actual Club membership. You don’t show the credit card for entry; you show the Club card. They will not turn away members due to using the Club card for access. However, they do require a same-day Star Alliance boarding pass for entry. I tend to agree that Silver isn’t worth targeting specifically. If your flying patterns are such that you’ll make Silver, so be it. If not, I wouldn’t spend a lot of extra money to reach it. Then again, if you’re not flying enough to reach Silver, I don’t see a ton of value in Club membership either. You can buy Premier Access on most flights as an a la carte item, and if you’re going to fly with two bags often enough for it to be worthwhile, you can buy a baggage subscription — but, again, you’d have to fly enough to justify the subscription but not enough to where you get a substantial savings from reaching status. I consider GS, 1K, and Gold the three most meaningful status levels. You may not care about E+ at booking, which is the primary Gold benefit, but it also includes the two bags, plus Star Alliance Gold, meaning lounge entry on international itineraries. Platinum isn’t a huge upgrade from Gold (although it’s better than it used to be). 1K is the next sweet spot because of the number of PlusPoints you get — if you can use them. And GS has a massive set of perks but requires 4MM lifetime miles or a very large annual spend. The additional 25% bonus is not universal. Only a few carriers — mostly (entirely?) JV partners — offer it. Doesn't the UC membership from the CC give *A lounge access on an international itinerary? |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411829)
Chase UA VI said it comes with premier benefits. So doesn't that come with priority bad, which UA Silver seems to give? I'm pretty sure my bag got that tag when I was flying UA to Singapore.
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411829)
I'll definitely fly enough to qualify for UA Silver, but I got it this time thanks to being a Marriott Titanium. I understand the preferred seat part, but since the CC gives premier benefits, doesn't that already come with priority phone support?
ETA: On checking again, Priority Baggage is not part of Premier Access.
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411829)
Doesn't the UC membership from the CC give *A lounge access on an international itinerary?
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Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 34411876)
No, it says it comes with Premier Access, not “premier benefits”. Although that does include the bag tag, for whatever it’s worth. (I’ve had my Premier bags lost, or come out last on the carousel). Premier Access is a specific UA product that includes many of the airport services that you’d get for free from Silver, including Premier check-in and security lanes, where available.
No, priority phone support is not included as part of Premier Access. Sure, but at the cost of a large annual fee for a rather mediocre credit card. And, actually, in some airports you get into slightly different lounges with the Club membership vs. *G. Any other differences between Premier Access and Premier Benefit that I need to be aware of? Can you give an example of the slightly different lounges? |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411889)
Thanks, J!
Any other differences between Premier Access and Premier Benefit that I need to be aware of? The first three items on that matrix are included in Premier Access, which is what the card provides. Nothing else is. (BTW, I misspoke in my previous post; they explicitly call out priority baggage handling as not being part of Premier Access. So, to get the Premier tag on your luggage, you’d need Silver status). Here’s the page for Premier Access in particular: https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...er-access.html
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34411889)
Can you give an example of the slightly different lounges?
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