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Old Jul 15, 2022, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by fumje
How did you enter Germany/Schengen? And why did the FRA exit officer care about entering UK? I think I'm failing to imagine the right intermediate step.
Something is missing. I have never shown my US passport to the immigration officer in FRA even when entering US or UK on it. The only situation that causes a bit of confusion is the FCT. Because LH gives your passport to the immigration officer they'd need both. But given you mentioned a line I'm guessing no FCT :P
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by fumje
How did you enter Germany/Schengen? And why did the FRA exit officer care about entering UK? I think I'm failing to imagine the right intermediate step.
Correction- the priority security line was this morning in Lisbon (it's been a long trip). I can't answer about the main security lines at FRA but just the usual passport/airline screening lines.

As far as FRA, there was some type of control point to get to the Z gates. That's were the little incident occurred. It was staffed by German police, and I believe she was confused as to why there was an EU exit stamp already in my US passport from Marseille, and how I got into Europe. I explained I entered through the UK on a UK passport so she inspected that, and then everything got confusing- supervisor, million questions.

Honestly I didn't understand what it was about. And some stamp..
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 12:20 pm
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We transited FRA two weeks ago and we were able to use the priority security lanes in the Z terminal. It didn't really save us much time because of the design but that's an entirely different discussion.
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by gmt4
FRA A did three days ago -12 July.
as of today they said. Add ZRH to the list
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
as of today they said. Add ZRH to the list
Who are "they"? I'll report back on the situation at FRA A this Sunday the 17th. Will be back thru there.

Maybe this is some sort of efficiency measure during high demand periods. Even before things fell apart this summer there were times the Priority security lane was no faster than the regular line. Making all lanes the same for all classes of passengers now really doesn't make things worse in that context.
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by gmt4
Who are "they"? I'll report back on the situation at FRA A this Sunday the 17th. Will be back thru there.

Maybe this is some sort of efficiency measure during high demand periods. Even before things fell apart this summer there were times the Priority lane was no faster than the regular line. Making all lanes the same for all classes of passengers now really doesn't make things worse in that context.
The only thing I would say -- as someone that always uses the J / *A priority lines -- the travelers in these lanes tend to be slightly more experienced (i.e. not bring bottles of water through security) -- so it's been my experience that it does move quicker -- but it's not a huge difference that's for sure....
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by bmwe92fan
The only thing I would say -- as someone that always uses the J / *A priority lines -- the travelers in these lanes tend to be slightly more experienced (i.e. not bring bottles of water through security) -- so it's been my experience that it does move quicker -- but it's not a huge difference that's for sure....
I use them all the time as well, but passenger experience level means nothing when the operators are slow and some passengers require 4, 5, or even 6 trays per passenger. I travel with two laptops, two phones, chargers, cables and an ipad in my bag. That can't be helped. I will not check electronics. I have to empty it all out into trays because of their personnel competence levels and screening equipment capability. This stands in stark contrast to Pre Check in the US where I leave it all in my bag and breeze thru in seconds. In these overseas airports when it takes even 1 minute per passenger to screen a them and their items do the math for yourself on the throughput they can achieve. Sixty people per hour per lane is atrocious. Yes, it is no exaggeration they are really that slow at times in FRA. I have observed and timed it. Its absolutely no surprise the lines stack up quickly in high demand times like these.
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
Be aware when booking your connections. FRA and MUC have no more fast lanes for Star Glod and/or BC/FC
No word from UA about it and not prepared to rebook tight connections
I have seen no reports that FC premium security is down. Do you have any prove of that?
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 7:13 pm
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We flew out of FRA 1 July and there were priority limes at security
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer
I have seen no reports that FC premium security is down. Do you have any prove of that?
for example
https://www-spiegel-de.cdn.ampprojec...6cb2c0e9af-amp
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
So same story as elsewhere, lack of adequate staffing. Truly the summer of our discontent.
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 7:45 pm
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I was at MUC yesterday and used the LH First/Star Alliance Gold security line at the far right of the T2 security zone. I think your information is incorrect, at least as of July 14th, 2022, the fast track security line at MUC is still active....
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Old Jul 15, 2022, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
Is this referring to LH elite check-in or airport security (the thread title and what folks have been replying about)?

Terminology was a bit vague.
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Old Jul 16, 2022, 12:53 am
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15 July FRA Z priority lanes were open in the morning (decent amount of people) but closed (no wait) around 3p-4pm. Saw the lines available for B in the morning too. This was transiting and no immigration so not sure if thats a different area - Walked for many miles in the same spot while managing to go through security twice. Took a bus that a guy said goes to other lounges. Couldn’t find the bus again.
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Old Jul 16, 2022, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
o.k., I'll call b.s. on that. Yes, there was an Email to M&M members suggesting there COULD be an issue at certain airports. No issues reported at FRA and MUC and given the volume of premium travel at FRA/MUC it is quite unlikely this will happen, in particular for First Class. Sounds like nobody is reporting any issues so far and I haven't seen any either.
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