Best options from NYC to SIN
I flew to Singapore in July, and planning another work trip there in October. Looking for suggestions. In July I flew United metal EWR>SFO>SIN. Good earnings, coffin like Polaris for 18 hours on the SFO-SIN leg is pretty rough. On the way home I flew Singapore Air direct SIN>EWR. Great seat, food, service, dismal PQD and award mile earnings due to that particular flight not being a code share, just a Star Alliance not preferred partner.
What would people here do. Suck it up and fly direct? The opportunity cost of dollar spend and mileage earnings is pretty darn high. Really struggling with this one. The Singapore Air direct flight is not only more convenient, but also generally much more comfortable than the United Polaris seats. |
Perhaps United metal from EWR to SFO and continue on the journey in SG metal? And book two one way tickets so you get away with the 75k award mileage cap.
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I'll go look now, but I assume the SQ SFO-SIN flight is also not a code share flight with United, so the majority of the earnings will be limited?
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Originally Posted by JCrew7384
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I'll go look now, but I assume the SQ SFO-SIN flight is also not a code share flight with United, so the majority of the earnings will be limited?
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...NgY1uo4Rz8oBa7 looks like it's crediting all the PQP when you try to checkout and looks at the earnings. I'd let someone else more knowledgable to chime in though |
If you give us some dates we can probably help more -- in the past few months I have found two one ways to asia cheaper than round trip -- but it varies by route a lot. We also live in NYC and frequently travel to SE Asia -- and we dislike 16 hours straight on any one plane and will sacrifice arrival time to connect in Tokyo / TPE / ICN to stretch / take a break....
To give you an example -- on October 3rd you can fly one way from EWR to SIN connecting in SFO in J for $5.1k -- return flights available for even less -- easily putting the total ticket under $10k and maximizing miles / PQD on UA. My wife and I are partial to NH for food and hard product from NYC -- but others prefer UA -- it's all up to what you value most.... If using the UA tool makes sure you scrolll all the way to the bottom and show all flights -- sometimes the best connections can be found down there... |
Originally Posted by JCrew7384
(Post 34476238)
What would people here do. Suck it up and fly direct? The opportunity cost of dollar spend and mileage earnings is pretty darn high. Really struggling with this one. The Singapore Air direct flight is not only more convenient, but also generally much more comfortable than the United Polaris seats.
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Originally Posted by JCrew7384
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Great seat, food, service, dismal PQD and award mile earnings due to that particular flight not being a code share, just a Star Alliance not preferred partner.
I believe the only other reasonable option on UA ticket stock is UA EWR-NRT, then NH to SIN. Otherwise you'll just have to make the call what's most important to you. For me, mileage accrual wouldn't matter nearly enough to base the decision on that, but PQP might depending on whether there's a status goal.
Originally Posted by hirohito888
(Post 34476427)
I would fly JFK-TYO-SIN to get better mileage earnings and better seat/service on NH.
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Originally Posted by JCrew7384
(Post 34476350)
I'll go look now, but I assume the SQ SFO-SIN flight is also not a code share flight with United, so the majority of the earnings will be limited?
United-operated or United-ticketed flights' earnings are always based upon the fare. Flights that are both partner-ticketed and partner-operated earn based upon the distance, fare class, and preferred / non-preferred status. The only affect that a codeshare might have is to allow you to book a flight on a United ticket that you otherwise couldn't -- and you're correct that SQ and UA do not codeshare on their long-haul flights. Furthermore, due to carrier restrictions on the UA fares and ticketing restrictions on the SQ fare, it's virtually impossible to ticket a long-haul SQ flight on a UA ticket. The nonstop SIN-EWR flight will always credit 1000 PQP each way. That's the penalty you're going to pay for nonstop service. I don't believe you gain anything from flying SQ JFK-FRA-SIN, because I don't think UA considers the FRA stop, but I'm willing to be corrected by someone who's tried it. Your best option, from a comfort + earnings perspective, may be to fly NH via Tokyo.* It's about a thousand miles shorter than the SFO route -- only 500 miles longer than the nonstop -- and you have options with NH. If the fare is less than about $5000, you can book NH-operated flights via ANA and earn about 5K PQP. If the fare is more than that you can book via UA and earn full PQP. FWIW, I find Polaris much more comfortable than SQ's A359 seat. :) Obviously opinions differ on that subject. The only concern that I'd have about adding an extra connection is that connecting has become perilous in the COVID era; if you don't have permission to enter Japan, you could end up with a mess if there's a delay. * once it's operating again. Thanks Kacee. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 34476440)
Unfortunately that doesn't work, because NH is not flying JFK-NRT. The only all-NH itinerary is via HND with 17 hour connection.
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Originally Posted by hirohito888
(Post 34476520)
But it works on the inbound, SIN-HND-JFK with a 4h layover. OP just has to figure out the outbound I guess.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 34476440)
The only all-NH itinerary is via HND with 17 hour connection.
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 34476886)
Tokyo is a great city. There's a lot you can do with a 17 hour connection.
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 34476886)
Tokyo is a great city. There's a lot you can do with a 17 hour connection.
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I'm still holding out hope that Japan will open by the end of the year...
That said, I believe overnight connections in HND are possible so the 17 hour would be valid, just uncomfortable when the lounge closes overnight. NRT is the one with the no overnights allowed. |
Originally Posted by aquanine
(Post 34476976)
That said, I believe overnight connections in HND are possible so the 17 hour would be valid, just uncomfortable when the lounge closes overnight. NRT is the one with the no overnights allowed.
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