UA cutting 50 daily flights from EWR during summer 2022
Jun 23, 2022, 12:02 pm
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Well if you keep complaining to the government that there are too many planes landing and taking off every day from Newark - and your competition keeps adding flights and there is nothing you can do about it - how would you best make your point and preserve revenue? I don’t think UA cares about statistics at all - just revenue….
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Jun 23, 2022, 12:34 pm
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TATL has been absolutely gangbusters for UA this year. No chance any are taken off the schedule for this move, and you're right, the cuts will be domestic only.
Most likely on the chopping block are afternoon/evening UAX frequencies within 500 or so miles of EWR, especially where there are multiple flights after 6pm. E.g., 5x DCA-EWR flights schedule to arrive between 6-9pm. I would expect that number to go down.
Most likely on the chopping block are afternoon/evening UAX frequencies within 500 or so miles of EWR, especially where there are multiple flights after 6pm. E.g., 5x DCA-EWR flights schedule to arrive between 6-9pm. I would expect that number to go down.
Jun 23, 2022, 12:37 pm
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My flight change was apparently uploaded into the system already. When I saw the news story I checked my flights. I was traveling next month LHR-EWR-TPA.
The EWR-TPA leg was canceled and I was rebooked to LHR-ORD-TPA with a 2 hr layover at ORD so it will be tight.
No notification from United.
The EWR-TPA leg was canceled and I was rebooked to LHR-ORD-TPA with a 2 hr layover at ORD so it will be tight.
No notification from United.
Jun 23, 2022, 1:00 pm
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Jun 23, 2022, 1:08 pm
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Well if you keep complaining to the government that there are too many planes landing and taking off every day from Newark - and your competition keeps adding flights and there is nothing you can do about it - how would you best make your point and preserve revenue? I don’t think UA cares about statistics at all - just revenue….
And, they really do care about those statistics, because the DOT cares about them.
Jun 23, 2022, 2:34 pm
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The cuts are not due to pilot or crew shortages, Kirby said.
According to the video - UA saying ATC understaffed and EWR taking more flights it can handle - the move is to improve on time performance and reduce cancellations.
United Airlines cutting 50 daily flights from Newark Liberty International Airport - ABC7 New York (abc7ny.com)
According to the video - UA saying ATC understaffed and EWR taking more flights it can handle - the move is to improve on time performance and reduce cancellations.
United Airlines cutting 50 daily flights from Newark Liberty International Airport - ABC7 New York (abc7ny.com)
Jun 23, 2022, 2:53 pm
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If UA is cutting flights, I strongly suspect they'll make cuts to their DCA-EWR route. They're operating these flights almost every half-hour at peak times using CRJ550s, some of the lowest-capacity planes in the UAX fleet. Which might be nice for customers (more space!) if they actually departed roughly on time. But, in my experience, these flights start running into cascading delays around 2-4 PM because (a) EWR (airport and ATC) is jammed and (b) United simply doesn't have enough gate space at DCA, so it's an abject cluster of UA ground staff trying to load these flights while arriving planes wait on the tarmac.
As a passenger who would otherwise strongly consider DCA-EWR-XXX connections, especially international, I won't do it with such an unreliable operation. Which, I suspect, undermines the whole strategy of running high-frequency, low-capacity flights on that route ("See, there's a flight right when you need it!").
If UA cuts DCA-EWR flights by two-thirds but upgrades to a 737-800/900, they could move just as many people in likely a more timely manner.
(Or they could be real heroes and start running a 752 EWR-DCA-SFO.)
As a passenger who would otherwise strongly consider DCA-EWR-XXX connections, especially international, I won't do it with such an unreliable operation. Which, I suspect, undermines the whole strategy of running high-frequency, low-capacity flights on that route ("See, there's a flight right when you need it!").
If UA cuts DCA-EWR flights by two-thirds but upgrades to a 737-800/900, they could move just as many people in likely a more timely manner.
(Or they could be real heroes and start running a 752 EWR-DCA-SFO.)
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Jun 23, 2022, 2:55 pm
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Jun 23, 2022, 3:52 pm
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I don’t understand why more passengers don’t take Amtrak Acela trains rather than fly between EWR and DCA. I guess this would not be good for connectors, but otherwise Acela is better experience…..maybe a little longer than flying (if flights are on time) but just less stressful.
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Jun 23, 2022, 3:57 pm
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Had a EWR-MIA effected by this on July 25 - had to cancel the UA and rebook on AA as not going to wait around EWR for the now 5+ hr connection from a LHR-EWR
Jun 23, 2022, 4:03 pm
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I don’t understand why more passengers don’t take Amtrak Acela trains rather fly between EWR and DCA. I guess this would not be good for connectors, but otherwise Acela is better experience…..maybe a little longer than flying (if flights are on time) but just less stressful.
Jun 23, 2022, 4:09 pm
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I don’t understand why more passengers don’t take Amtrak Acela trains rather fly between EWR and DCA. I guess this would not be good for connectors, but otherwise Acela is better experience…..maybe a little longer than flying (if flights are on time) but just less stressful.
Now, I wish United would bring back its relationship with Amtrak and convince them to stop a couple Acelas right at EWR station. As it stands, regional Amtrak trains stop there, but the Acela only stops at Newark (city). And I don't think you can book a United ticket with an Amtrak segment from DC. I would strongly consider booking a UA ticket from Union Station to EWR to a long-haul destination if the first leg were Acela.
