Is UAL cutting back drastically at ORD?

Old Jun 22, 22, 10:19 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 5
Is UAL cutting back drastically at ORD?

It seems like a lot of once-routine nonstop destinations served by UA from ORD are being dramatically decreased in frequency, being subjected to brief seasonal turns that sometimes arenít even daily or being permanently axed. Is UA not big on ORD anymore despite it being their home airport and are the Chicago-area airports in general on the downturn? It seems like a lot of nonstop routes out of Chicagoís airports are vanishing these days or being significantly pared back.
nwt0 is offline  
Old Jun 22, 22, 10:27 pm
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: ORD
Programs: UA GS 2.8MM, Bonvoy Amb/LT Plat
Posts: 751
Other than some EAS routes being terminated, as they are everywhere, I donít see much reduction. Increases, if anything.

Can you provide some specific examples?
tcdtcd is offline  
Old Jun 22, 22, 10:36 pm
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by tcdtcd View Post
Other than some EAS routes being terminated, as they are everywhere, I donít see much reduction. Increases, if anything.

Can you provide some specific examples?
RNO and GEG were always well-covered by one airline or another through ORD or MDW, but now a days, they seem to only be available as seasonal red eyes. I feel like more cities could be on the chopping block soon like ELP, PNS, HSV, CAE, AVP and RAP. What markets served from ORD/MDW are at risk or being shut down entirely or reduced to iffy at best seasonal status?
nwt0 is offline  
Old Jun 22, 22, 10:49 pm
  #4  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 8,609
Originally Posted by nwt0 View Post
RNO and GEG were always well-covered by one airline or another through ORD or MDW, but now a days, they seem to only be available as seasonal red eyes. I feel like more cities could be on the chopping block soon like ELP, PNS, HSV, CAE, AVP and RAP. What markets served from ORD/MDW are at risk or being shut down entirely or reduced to iffy at best seasonal status?
What makes you think any of those markets are on the chopping block? And what era were you referring to?
ezefllying and tcdtcd like this.
EWR764 is offline  
Old Jun 22, 22, 10:54 pm
  #5  
Moderator: United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.85MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 59,396
Originally Posted by nwt0 View Post
RNO and GEG were always well-covered by one airline or another through ORD or MDW, but now a days, they seem to only be available as seasonal red eyes. I feel like more cities could be on the chopping block soon like ELP, PNS, HSV, CAE, AVP and RAP. What markets served from ORD/MDW are at risk or being shut down entirely or reduced to iffy at best seasonal status?
UA has a daily nonstop ORD-GEG, year around
Same for RNO

Some EAS flights by Skywest / United Express have been cut, United dropping a number of smaller domestic airports starting 4 Jan 2022 but not the airports you listed

UA does not use MDW

Are you talking about UA or other airlines?
WineCountryUA is offline  
Old Jun 23, 22, 9:51 pm
  #6  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 18,928
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
UA has a daily nonstop ORD-GEG, year around
Same for RNO

Some EAS flights by Skywest / United Express have been cut, United dropping a number of smaller domestic airports starting 4 Jan 2022 but not the airports you listed

UA does not use MDW

Are you talking about UA or other airlines?
ORD-RNO is not scheduled to operate from Sep 30th through Dec 14th. ORD-ASE also will not operate during this period. ORD-GEG and ORD-FAT schedules were reduced this past weekend and they were dropped for parts of Fall and Winter with a brief return around the holidays and then resuming again on March 3rd. ORD-SMF/SLC took pretty big cuts this past weekend and were reduced to 2x daily for November and 3x for December (had been loaded at 4x daily for both months).

It seems all the major airlines are reducing flights served by regional airlines (it's not just UA) due to regional pilot shortages. As an example, a lot of DL regional airline routes out of DTW that had been at 3-4x daily flights last summer are now down to only 1-2x daily flights. Hard to imagine the regional routes with only 1 daily flight are sustainable long-term.
jimmygottfredson likes this.

Last edited by xliioper; Jun 23, 22 at 10:18 pm
xliioper is offline  
Old Jun 23, 22, 10:12 pm
  #7  
Moderator: United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.85MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 59,396
Originally Posted by xliioper View Post
ORD-RNO is not scheduled to operate from Sep 30th through Dec 14th.


But not in Nov, resuming in mid-December thru June 2023. Missed the November dropout so 11 month s out of the next 12 -- nearly yeararound

Originally Posted by xliioper View Post
ORD-GEG ... .
The same November dropout but service for the rest of 2022
...
WineCountryUA is offline  
Old Jun 23, 22, 10:23 pm
  #8  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 18,928
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post


But not in Nov, resuming in mid-December thru June 2023. Missed the November dropout so 11 month s out of the next 12 -- nearly yeararound

The same November dropout but service for the rest of 2022
...
The schedule above for 2169 for ORD-RNO is a "direct" flight and actually connects through SFO. Notice the 1 stop and change in gauge of aircraft from 777 to 738.
jsloan likes this.
xliioper is offline  
Old Jun 23, 22, 10:32 pm
  #9  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 15,974
Originally Posted by xliioper View Post
The schedule above for 2169 for ORD-RNO is a "direct" flight and actually connects through SFO. Notice the 1 stop and change in gauge of aircraft from 777 to 738.
Why the scare quotes? Surely there is nothing more natural than a direct flight that overflies the destination by 200 miles, stops, and has a change of gauge!

(This is exactly why I cringe whenever someone asks if there's a "direct" flight. I always want to scream, "That's not (necessarily) what you want!"
VRFast likes this.
jsloan is offline  
Old Jun 23, 22, 11:05 pm
  #10  
Moderator: United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.85MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 59,396
Originally Posted by xliioper View Post
The schedule above for 2169 for ORD-RNO is a "direct" flight and actually connects through SFO. Notice the 1 stop and change in gauge of aircraft from 777 to 738.
You are correct, the "0 connections" lead me astray but it is still 10 out of the next 12 months as a non-stop (but that could change)
WineCountryUA is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread