Which Flight EWR-LHR
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I disagree that the 8.30am 'wastes a day' - I find that the red eyes often arrive too early, you can't check in to your hotel, so you wander around like a zombie until you can and try to power through the first day (which gets 'wasted', in my view). You will get 4 hours sleep max on such a short flight. On the other hand, you can stay awake on the day flight and get a good night's sleep when you arrive.
lol you should have stated that the 8.30am has no availability in the first post - that changes everything. Go with what's available for 4 people. 10pm is good. EWR in the summer is unpredictable - I wouldn't get too anxious about flight times as a summer thunderstorm could ruin any flight. Book what you can now.
lol you should have stated that the 8.30am has no availability in the first post - that changes everything. Go with what's available for 4 people. 10pm is good. EWR in the summer is unpredictable - I wouldn't get too anxious about flight times as a summer thunderstorm could ruin any flight. Book what you can now.
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Thanks all for your responses. Seems like the consensus is the 8:30 AM morning flight. Problems with that are it wastes an entire day flying, less convenient for us, and currently no IN availability vs. the evening flights which do. I don't think it's worth paying a few thousand dollars more just in case of IRROPS, so ideally an evening flight is ideal.
With that said, do you think the 10 PM is a safe enough bet or should I go for an earlier flight (say 7 PM) so if there are issues, they can put us on a later flight?
With that said, do you think the 10 PM is a safe enough bet or should I go for an earlier flight (say 7 PM) so if there are issues, they can put us on a later flight?
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I'm thinking of options to get there same day, rather than wait all day for accommodation on an evening flight. Isn't NYC-LHR the only route to Europe with a same-day arrival? If so, then an indirect option through Europe will still end up next day. If these are paid J tickets, maybe you have a better case.
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I'm thinking of options to get there same day, rather than wait all day for accommodation on an evening flight. Isn't NYC-LHR the only route to Europe with a same-day arrival? If so, then an indirect option through Europe will still end up next day. If these are paid J tickets, maybe you have a better case.
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I took the 10pm flight this week -- we were delayed about an hour but the flight went out fine -- as they most always do! I know it's hard -- try not to stress too much about it there -- are hourly flights up until 11pm. As the others pointed out the day flight is also my favorite -- there is a caveat however -- if that flight takes a delay it can get dicey quickly as flights are not allowed to land at Heathrow past a certain time (IIRC 11:30pm, reopening for arrivals at 6am)-- so if the delay carries on too long they will have to cancel -- and you will then be on a red eye anyways. Fortunately it has been pretty reliable and to is by far the best option to me -- especially for business travel (which is the majority of my travel to the UK)....
I hope not.....
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Hard to say. I would imagine that EWR-LHR is a flight that would be prioritized to depart relatively close to on-time (say, vs. a UAX flight that will get delayed when bad weather happens). If you want a nicer (i.e. less crowded) airport experience, later is probably better. But I have historically tried to take the earlier flights in the evening to LHR because, at least in the past (i.e. pre-pandemic times), clearing immigration in Terminal 2 at LHR could be brutal if you did not get gifted the FastPass by being in Polaris.
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Hard to say. I would imagine that EWR-LHR is a flight that would be prioritized to depart relatively close to on-time (say, vs. a UAX flight that will get delayed when bad weather happens). If you want a nicer (i.e. less crowded) airport experience, later is probably better. But I have historically tried to take the earlier flights in the evening to LHR because, at least in the past (i.e. pre-pandemic times), clearing immigration in Terminal 2 at LHR could be brutal if you did not get gifted the FastPass by being in Polaris.
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No problem! What my wife and I used to do: race off the plane in front of everyone else (who was sleep-deprived / jet-lagged like we were), get to the front of immigration line quickly, get through fast, and then hit the Priority Pass arrivals lounge after customs/baggage claim to shower up, grab some grub, and hop on the Heathrow Express. There is so much terminal to get through that hustling at that hour (when no one was there) was a slam-dunk way of getting through the line fast. But I would only recommend it if you have access to a shower at the end of the journey!
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When I was flying out of IAD headed for LHR, I always chose the morning departure for the same reasons. IAD ops are simply a mess late in the day when T-storms move in.
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FastTrack on entry is virtually non existent post-pandemic. Most in Polaris end up in same long line for e-gates or the line to see an officer if young children or not qualifying passport.