United Devalues Clubs - Makes sure they are packed beyond capacity.
#16
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I am United 1K. I get OTP(s) from a credit card. I can't use them. They basically worthless. Not to mention the trouble and embarrassment of standing in line only to be turned away because "you're not in the club." They should stop pretending the OTP(S) are some kind of benefit.
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The pass situation is exasperated as people have been earning these for the past year and with leisure travel up in recent months and this summer, there is going to be higher than usual demand and high level of unhappiness.
Will be interesting to see if Chase / UA do something to address the dissatisfaction. The newer cards are not including passes -- the Explore card is source of most of the passes
Will be interesting to see if Chase / UA do something to address the dissatisfaction. The newer cards are not including passes -- the Explore card is source of most of the passes
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 18, 2022 at 8:23 am Reason: the Explore card is source of most of the passes
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Never had issues using my one time passes at IAH. I think I only ever saw the sign about not accepting them once, and that was the E club.
I upgraded to the club card since I spend so much time traveling for work these days. Over the past year I've been in all the IAH clubs, BOS, DFW, LAS, HNL, SFO and probably more that I'm forgetting. Some are a bit crowded but I've never had an issue finding a bar seat to do some work, which was my primary reason for getting the card.
I upgraded to the club card since I spend so much time traveling for work these days. Over the past year I've been in all the IAH clubs, BOS, DFW, LAS, HNL, SFO and probably more that I'm forgetting. Some are a bit crowded but I've never had an issue finding a bar seat to do some work, which was my primary reason for getting the card.
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Can we create two different clubs for the airlines?
United Club - Anyone admitted with a membership, first ticket, business ticket, Day Pass, CC pass. Comes with snacks and limited drink options for free, food and adult beverages for purchase.
United Lounge - Only adults with a membership or with a first or business ticket admitted. Top notch service with no charge food and drinks. Quiet areas where no phone conversations are allowed.
United Club - Anyone admitted with a membership, first ticket, business ticket, Day Pass, CC pass. Comes with snacks and limited drink options for free, food and adult beverages for purchase.
United Lounge - Only adults with a membership or with a first or business ticket admitted. Top notch service with no charge food and drinks. Quiet areas where no phone conversations are allowed.
#22
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Take for example today:
8-9AM: 6 scheduled departures/ 61 arrivals
9-10AM: 56 scheduled departures/ 2 arrivals
10-11AM: 30 scheduled departures/ 31 arrivals
11-12PM: 14 scheduled departures/ 22 arrivals
12-1PM: 45 scheduled departures
1-2PM: 1 scheduled departure
So basically by around 1015AM or so, the lounge goes quiet again when everyone finishes stuffing themselves in the lounge and becomes gate lice at the boarding area.
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I'm sure if you're personally willing to pay for the construction, maintenance, and operation, United would consider it.
There's a zero chance of that ever realistically happening anywhere. Even when they try it, there are always people who violate the rule and no agent is ever willing to say anything.
There's a zero chance of that ever realistically happening anywhere. Even when they try it, there are always people who violate the rule and no agent is ever willing to say anything.
#24
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Can we create two different clubs for the airlines?
United Club - Anyone admitted with a membership, first ticket, business ticket, Day Pass, CC pass. Comes with snacks and limited drink options for free, food and adult beverages for purchase.
United Lounge - Only adults with a membership or with a first or business ticket admitted. Top notch service with no charge food and drinks. Quiet areas where no phone conversations are allowed.
United Club - Anyone admitted with a membership, first ticket, business ticket, Day Pass, CC pass. Comes with snacks and limited drink options for free, food and adult beverages for purchase.
United Lounge - Only adults with a membership or with a first or business ticket admitted. Top notch service with no charge food and drinks. Quiet areas where no phone conversations are allowed.
Why 'adults" (whatever that definition is these days) as my children travel in paid Polaris and are entitled to access per UA's rules and regardless one gets a membership through their credit card for regular lounge access anyway. They could limit guests which would help for sure, but I do not see age as a problem, but general capacity.
FWIW in my experience travelling millions of miles I find drunk "adults" (not kids) as the biggest cause of issues both in the clubs and on the aircraft. YMMV of course.
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On one hand I quite enjoyed learning about someone's bidding strategy for a parking management contract at the ORD C club on Thursday...on the other hand if it's actually enforced the rule sticks well... Try having a cell call on a NJT Quiet Car and between other passengers and conductors it -- or you -- won't last long. Would be a bit nice to see that level of attention in UCs.
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I'm sure if you're personally willing to pay for the construction, maintenance, and operation, United would consider it.
There's a zero chance of that ever realistically happening anywhere. Even when they try it, there are always people who violate the rule and no agent is ever willing to say anything.
There's a zero chance of that ever realistically happening anywhere. Even when they try it, there are always people who violate the rule and no agent is ever willing to say anything.
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The AA JFK Flagship Lounge has a Quiet Room. Haven’t been in there to tell if it’s actually quiet or not though. Some other AA lounges have these, IIRC.
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Can we create two different clubs for the airlines?
United Club - Anyone admitted with a membership, first ticket, business ticket, Day Pass, CC pass. Comes with snacks and limited drink options for free, food and adult beverages for purchase.
United Lounge - Only adults with a membership or with a first or business ticket admitted. Top notch service with no charge food and drinks. Quiet areas where no phone conversations are allowed.
United Club - Anyone admitted with a membership, first ticket, business ticket, Day Pass, CC pass. Comes with snacks and limited drink options for free, food and adult beverages for purchase.
United Lounge - Only adults with a membership or with a first or business ticket admitted. Top notch service with no charge food and drinks. Quiet areas where no phone conversations are allowed.
#30
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Maybe you have the United Club for the paid lounge/*G/int'l business riff-raff and have a new club with a more luxurious name, maybe a "Red Carpet Club" or something like that. Charge big bucks for it, and if they do it right, have some real VIP service like using GS secret security and tarmac transfers a la LH HON service.
Given that UA has gutted premium services (see: chauffeured transfers) I wouldn't count on them making a business case for a return in the near future.
In other words... For the "charege big bucks for it" option by the time you make it expensive enough add on to make sense for UA to meaningfully limit availability and combine it with airfare you're probably getting close enough to the charter/fractional charter ranges that a significant number of potential clients would go that route.